[nagdu] Ownership of guide dog

[Tracy Carcione]

Hi Rhonda.
I agree.  It's part of why I got my dog from TSE.  I was proud to hand
over my check and know I owned my beautiful Benny.  I think it meant more
to me than GDB's big graduation ever did, somehow.
Tracy

>  hi tracy.
>  i think we should get ownership.
>  after class.
> .. . i think it's our dogs. anyway.
>  but that is how i see it.
>
> On Mar 20, 2012, at 6:40 AM, Tracy Carcione wrote:
>
>> If one signs a contract, isn't it binding, even if the terms are
>> ridiculous?  After all, you theoretically read it, and definitely agreed
>> to it.
>> Tracy
>>
>>> Ava,
>>>    Since the contract one signs with the training programs is a legally
>>> binding agreement, should an allegation of abuse, neglect, or
>>> maltreatment
>>> be made, the terms of the agreement and their legality would be
>>> reviewed.
>>> In
>>> the case of Fidelco, for instance, a legal expert in the area of
>>> consumer
>>> and ownership rights has told me the terms of Fidelco's agreement would
>>> likely be deemed unenforceable. It basically states, "You own your dog
>>> unless we decide you don't!" Such contradictory language is logically
>>> flawed.
>>>    As for the terms of other agreements I have seen, the programs
>>> generally
>>> use the terms "evidence of abuse, neglect, or maltreatment" when
>>> referring
>>> to their right to repossess a dog. In such cases, I would assume the
>>> legal
>>> procedures and definitions of "evidence" would be used.
>>>
>>> Fraternally yours,
>>> Marion Gwizdala
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ava Foster" <avapup.7 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 9:27 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Ownership of guide dog
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thank you all for your answers to my question about which programs
>>>> grant total ownership. It's not that I'd mind having a contract
>>>> stating a program could take a dog for abuse or such, but what worries
>>>> me is, who determines what constitutes that abuse, such as in the
>>>> example which I believe involved Fidelco. As an owner-trainer who
>>>> would NEVER abuse a dog, I'd hate to think that asking for help could
>>>> result in having a beloved family memer taken away. Thanks again! Ava
>>>>
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