[nagdu] Advance Notification

[Natalie]

I know what you're saying, Marion.  I wish I had an easy answer for this.  I 
think the best thing to do is to push for more training of these companies. 
Of course, people should not have to tell if they are gay, black, Muslim, 
whatever.  I wish I had an easy answer.
Best,
Nat and Liam Joshua

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 5:54 AM
Subject: [nagdu] Advance Notification


> Natalie,
>    In this message, you say that you tell them you will be accompanied by 
> a guide dog because you don't want any surprises. What I think is the 
> biggest surprise is that taxi companies do not adequately train their 
> employees on the civil rights provisions of the ADA. Just as it is illegal 
> to discriminate against us by reason of our disability, it is another's 
> civil right to not be discriminated against because of other 
> characteristics. Should someone call a taxi company and tell them they are 
> African American, Muslim, or gay? Why or why not? What if someone contends 
> they are afraid of black people or that their religion forbids them from 
> being in the presence of homosexuals? Should they be allowed to refuse 
> service to them based upon these irrational concerns or should they be 
> required to abide by the law?
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion Gwizdala
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 7:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Taxi Refusal
>
>
>> Hi Cindy, et al,
>> I've had it go both ways.  Usually, I do tell them I have the dog when I 
>> make my call, because, like Nicole, I'd prefer there to be no surprises. 
>> However, I've had delays and minor challenges happen whether I prewarn of 
>> the dog or not.  Just depends on the time of day, who's on staff, and 
>> probably God knows what else.
>> Best,
>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 6:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Taxi Refusal
>>
>>
>>>I don't understand why you do this when you have the lawful right to take 
>>>the dog with you, and I think I did explain, or tried to. I don't mean 
>>>for you to need to be so defensive about it. I mean, at this point, I 
>>>expect that the fact I have my dog with me is likely in the cab company's 
>>>computer, too, because I've taken him. I actually hadn't thought of that 
>>>angle before. I won't be asking though because it might give them ideas 
>>>that they wouldn't have had otherwise. Here, of course, we are small 
>>>enough and we ride enough that they would know that the dog is with me. 
>>>Probably they would with you as well. But when you tell them you have a 
>>>dog, then it lets cab drivers opt out of driving you. That's all I was 
>>>saying about it.
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>>
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