[nagdu] Story that I don't know what to think ab out

Thu Mar 29 16:04:32 UTC 2012

You do realize you are being bullied and intimidated right?
Being nice doesn't even come into this, they have no choice but to meet your needs.
This isn't a friendship it's a business relationship.

You are either very scared and bullied, or you are hiding something.
Your school isn't that great if this treatment is going on.

Know too that you can call a meeting. The person that takes control has control.
Know too that you can document any comments made to you.

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark J. Cadigan
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:58 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Story that I don't know what to think ab out

Rebecca,

The janitor is not getting involved in any way that could jeopardize him in
any way. Also, I never said I was not concerned about his career.

I know the people who have offered to help are doing it of there own free
will, and are willing to help. I know they understand the potential risks
inherent with going toe to toe with administration. I am going to stay at
this school because of such people. I have people at this school who are
willing to do anything to help. This is one of the reasons why this school
is such a good fit for me.

Recently, there has not been an opportunity for meetings. Without me forcing
the point, administration does not want to meet with me at this time.
However, if I am summoned to a meeting, I guarantee, I will invite all the
people who are helping to attend to help advocate on my side.

All the meetings were at the start of the problem, before I realized the
severity of it. Representatives of the guide dog school did talk to school
administration with me. Subsequently, all communication has been either
comments in passing, over the phone, or by email; however, not many by
email.

At this time, I don't want to upset the apple cart and force a meeting,
until I have all my ducks in a row. Although I appreciate the help provided
by the people who are willing to help, they are not experts in guide dog
acksess. I am in consultation with some people who are, and we are
formulating an action plan.

The people I want to be nice to are the staff of the office for students
with disabilities. I can't afford to ruffle feathers there, because I have
to work with them so much for accommodations and adapting materials for my
classes.

Mark

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Story that I don't know what to think ab out

>        And she offered of her own free will. She's an adult, she knows
> what she's offering.
> Your rationale just isn't adding up Mark. I'm sorry.
> Janitors do carry a lot of weight, some might say more then your
> professor.  You've got a guy willing to go to bat for you, yet you don't
> seem worried about his career.  My guess is he and his coworkers are more
> aware of you (and other students) then you realize.
> I don't understand why you haven't taken up all the people who have
> offered to help and have them attend meetings with you to sort this out.
> These people are adults. They believe helping you is the right thing to
> do. And you want to "be nice"
> This just doesn't add up.
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Cindy Ray
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:06 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Story that I don't know what to think ab out
>
> You said you didn't want to use her help because it might bring undue
> pressure to bear on her. I was just saying that you really don't have to
> worry much about that if she is tenured. I would use absolutely everyone I
> needed to use, but honestly, I wouldn't be willing to continue in a school
> that gives me that much grief over the dog issue. Of course, that has its
> down side, too. I don't know. In the end, you will have to do the things
> that are best for you and it isn't might right to make that sort of
> judgments. I was only stating that I think if she offers to help you with
> a meeting, then you should do that, or at least I would strongly consider
> it.
>
> Cindy
>
> On Mar 29, 2012, at 8:53 AM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>
>> Rebecca and Cindy
>>
>>
>>
>> How am I refusing to use help? I am taking help from several people. For
>> example, the guide dog school, suggestions from this list, and a couple
>> of friends of mine who are lawyers. Before I do anything, I consult with
>> my lawyer friend for his opinion.
>>
>>
>>
>> This woman who offered to help is a wonderful advocate, and has helped me
>> on several occasions. She has been helping from the side lines. I am
>> trying to be a nice guy, because I will have to work with all the people
>> in question for the next 4 years. I am only a freshman after all. I can't
>> afford to make enemies, or even worse bring scrutiny or pressure down
>> upon people in the department who are willing to help.
>>
>>
>>
>> I only told her that I did not think a meeting would be a good idea after
>> I called to set up a meeting, and got chewed out over the phone. Forcing
>> the point, and having a face to face meeting will only serve to make the
>> dean angrier. If I do have a face to face meeting, I will most certainly
>> have someone with me as an advocate. Probably this professor who is
>> willing to go to bat for me. But for now, I am pursuing other avenues.
>>
>>
>>
>> The alternative avenues of approach that I am currently employing should
>> have favorable results; however, I can't discuss them on list.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
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