[nagdu] back with question and update

Tue May 15 12:22:31 UTC 2012

This, exactly.

I will tell people that it's far easier to be a mom then a guide dog user because I don't depend on my kid for my safety. This means that she can misbehave be it intentional or not, and the stakes for me at least n terms of life and limb are inconsequential.

That isn't true when working a dog.

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From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 8:18 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] back with question and update

What I think most people don't understand is that my safety depends on the
dog working well and paying attention.  If he's fooling around, it could
actually be a matter of life and death.  It's usually not, but it could
be.  So I'm not correcting him to be mean or macho or whatever; I'm
correcting him to save one or both of us from serious trouble now or in
the future.
People's pets don't have responsibility for anything, so I think people
may have trouble treating a dog seriously.
Shucks, I'm amazed myself at the difference between some dogs in and out
of harness.  They're like two different creatures, one goofy and one
serious and careful.
Tracy

> Hi Marcia.  I'm sorry that happened to you, but it looks like you're
> handling it well.  I use my feet all the time to help me determine
> what Brie is doing.  There have been times when I have caught her nose
> because it was on the ground sniffing when I was trying to find her
> body with my feet.  I feel horrible when I do things like that, but as
> blind people, we will trip over or run into our dogs on occasion.  It
> sounds horrible to say, and that's one of the reasons I have begun
> working with Brie so that she will find my hand with her nose.
>
> About the article...  There are so many things to say that I'm not
> sure an article can say it all.  One of the biggest things I notice is
> that people don't understand that working dog does not equal pet.  If
> you see a dog working, it is not your right to come up and pet it.
> Likewise, if a working dog sniffs you, and its handler corrects
> it(tells the dog to leave it), it is not your place to interact with
> the dog or judge the handler.  I'd say that questions about guide dogs
> and what is or is not proper conduct between someone outside the
> working team and the guide dog is something that a person could
> contact nagdu about.
>
> There is so much educating that needs to be done that it amazes me.
> Good luck with the article!
>
> On 5/14/12, Criminal Justice Major <orleans24 at comcast.net> wrote:
>> Hi, Marsha,
>> Welcome back and hope you recover from your cold.
>> Yes, I've had someone file a complaint on me with the Denver Dumb
>> Friends
>> League, claiming I was hitting Odie and he wasn't being fed.
>> An investigator came over and check out Odie, stating Odie looked happy
>> and
>> well that nothing was wrong with him.
>> Truth was that Odie wanted the man out of our apartment.
>> I had to immediately contact Denver Animal Contrl and ask about the
>> individual who came up to my apartment to see if he was an actual
>> investigator or not and the representative was very helpful.
>> She even backed me up to say that Odie and I were both happy together
>> and
>> that we love each other.
>> It really irritates me when people just love to stick their noses in
>> someone's business at the wrong time.
>> Animal Control has told me it really bothers them when people don't get
>> the
>> facts straight, especially if people act like they're too scared to come
>> forward face to face.
>> Too bad they weren't able to find out who did this and I'd sure as heck
>> love
>> to.
>> I had to contact Pilot Dogs and tell Jay Gray what exactly happened and
>> I
>> honestly admitted that if I didn't love Odie, then why would I have even
>> gone to training and stuck with him?
>> As far as the article thing, you can definitely say that both blind
>> individual and guide dog happily work together as a team should be doing
>> since that's what they were matched and meant to be in the very
>> beginning.
>> While some teams may not widely display or show feelings for each other,
>> there are some great guide dog teams out as both dog and handler enjoy
>> each
>> other's company and working together.
>> Yes, Odie was a big brat during class and he most certainly gave me a
>> run
>> for my money's worth.
>> I look back and despite I had moments of where I just wanted to pack up
>> and
>> leave, it wasn't allowed to happen.
>> The two of us initially became one great team with a powerful, strong
>> bond.
>> Yes, Odie knows how to back talk to me with the use of his body
>> language,
>> but it never changes anything between the two of us.
>> When I do go back to retrain with another guide dog at Pilot Dogs, Dale
>> and
>> Odie will both escort me to the airport and definitely to the airplane.
>> It will be hard to say good-bye and I know some tears will be shed upon
>> Odie
>> feeling the sadness of me being gone for a while.
>> I'll look forward to the day of coming back home with a new partner next
>> to
>> me upon seeing my husband and Odie too.
>> He's a member of the family and he plays an important valuable part too.
>> I do hope everything pans out and no one else tries to say any other
>> smack
>> toward you either, especially the falsified claims of abuse.
>> *Disgusted*
>> Bibi
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> of Missouri recording secretary,
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>
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