[nagdu] private guide training

Thu May 31 01:54:31 UTC 2012

Did you know that GDB has 2 or 3 week training programs? They also
train in home. Just figured I'd mention it in case it helps you at
all.
Laurel and Stockard

On 5/30/12, Steven Johnson <blinddog3 at charter.net> wrote:
> That would be something you would have to research on your own.  I can send
> you the link which is
> http://www.deltasociety.org/page.aspx?pid=452
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Steve
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Jessica Pitzer
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 5:50 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] private guide training
>
> Are there other ones besides occup paws and custom? I'm in florida.
> Jessica
>
> On 5/30/12, Steven Johnson <blinddog3 at charter.net> wrote:
>> Jessica,
>> Have you looked at a private agency, those outside of the
>> international agencies?  In many states, you can find these.  For
>> instance, Wisconsin has Custom Canines and OccuPaws which only serve
>> WI or the immediately surrounding states.  Something to consider.  If
>> you need to locate a private training program, check out
>> www.deltasociety.org
>>
>> HTH,
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Jessica Pitzer
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:19 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] private guide training
>>
>> I definitely want a dog ASAP I'm looking at other schools, too but
>> we'll see.
>> Jessica
>>
>> On 5/30/12, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com> wrote:
>>> You should be able to just take the paperwork from Pilot and send it
>>> to a different school.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Jessica Pitzer
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 5:45 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] private guide training
>>>
>>> Oh no, what I meant was whoever committed to me first, like of the
>>> trainer said okay I'll work with you, then I'd tell pilot I foudn a
>>> different avenue.
>>> That's all I meant. I don't think the private trainer thing is gonna
>>> work due to cost, so its going to have to be a school. I don't much
>>> rellish applying to a new school because i hate paperwork and doctors
>>> visits and the whoel mess plus i detest home interviews. I have
>>> nothing to hide btu I feel a lot of pressure. I don't much want a
>>> school where I have to stay as long as a first timer, either.
>>> So.. up in teh air right now. I'd love  to see the new survey maybe
>>> tha'td help.
>>> Jessica
>>>
>>> On 5/29/12, Julie J. <julielj at neb.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> Jessica,
>>>>
>>>> You mentioned that it will come down to whether Pilot or the private
>>>> trainer comes through first.  I don't think that's a fair plan for
>>>> the private trainer.  Training a dog from scratch can take anywhere
>>>> from 4 months to several years.  It can take weeks to months to find
>>>> a dog or puppy.  Then maybe a year or more of puppy training or a
>>>> few months of catch up if you start with an adult.  Then perhaps
>>>> four to six months of actual guide training.  At the end of all that
>>>> there is no
>> guarantee.
>>>> The trainer might have to start the process all over with a second dog.
>>>>
>>>> But I'm concerned about what happens to all the trainers work and
>>>> the dog if Pilot finds a dog for you first, which I'd strongly
>>>> guessing they will.  I don't think it'd be fair to a private trainer
>>>> for them to commit to all this time and work and a dog and then you
>>>> change your mind. Going through a private trainer to get a guide dog
>>>> has some advantages, but I don't think speed of placement is one of
> them.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway it's something to consider.
>>>>
>>>> Julie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/29/2012 9:13 AM, Jessica Pitzer wrote:
>>>>> I asked for a poodle, and just last week I wrote them and told them
>>>>> I'd accept a lab if they could absolutely not find me a poodle.
>>>>> they told me a poodle might take a long time as I want a female and
>>>>> they said finding one who will be good with kids, small dogs, and
>>>>> be on the calmer side will be hard as they ahve more energy. IDK. I
>>>>> thought they were calmer but I guess we'll see. Haven't heard back
>>>>> from them. I'm still pursuing the private route, because I really
>>>>> do want a poodle if it can work or a poodle cross, and the other
>>>>> hting is I
>> really dont'
>>>>> wanna leave my son for 2 weeks, I guess it'll probably end up
>>>>> whether pilot comes trough or the private stuff first.
>>>>> Jessica
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/29/12, NCBootman<ncbootman at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>> Perhaps you want to consider dropping your request for a specific
>>>>>> breed.
>>>>>> If
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the breed you seek is not happy with small children, is it a good
>>>>>> breed for
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a guide dog? What happens when you find yourself amongst other
>>>>>> people's kids
>>>>>>
>>>>>> or have to pass by a daycare on one of your routes? I would not
>>>>>> want that liability for myself because if our dogs harm someone
>>>>>> else, as handlers, we
>>>>>>
>>>>>> are responsible. Even if the dog seems fine in a kennel, that can
>>>>>> change once it is a working dog if by nature it is not child
>>>>>> friendly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>> ----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Jessica Pitzer
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:36 AM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] private guide training
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, pilot jsut said that since I had a small child in the house
>>>>>> along with 2 smaller dogs, that it would be harder to find a dog
>>>>>> that is both able to live with small dogs and children, and be the
>>>>>> breed I want. *shrugs*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/29/12, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)<REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Jessica,
>>>>>>> Does your son have special medical issues?
>>>>>>> I ask because any dog from a school should meet this requirement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there more going on?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Jessica Pitzer
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 6:42 PM
>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>> Users
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] private guide training
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> I'm wondering if anyone has Doug While's email, and or if any of
>>>>>>> you know of anyone who does a service similar to Doug's. I'm
>>>>>>> looking for a private guide dog trainer either ot help me select
>>>>>>> a dog and train it, or to train a dog I select, that kind of thing.
>>>>>>> I'm not opposed ot the school route, but I'm waiting on the
>>>>>>> latest survey before I apply with any new schools and the one I'm
>>>>>>> on teh waiting list for says that uit'll be a while because I
>>>>>>> asked them for a dog who would be calm enough around my son not to
> hurt him.
>>>>>>> *shrugs* Anyway thanks all for the help.
>>>>>>> Jessica
>>>>>>>
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