[nagdu] retirement

Tue Nov 20 20:26:59 UTC 2012

Tracy,
Princess is really curious and it gets in the way of her work. I'm not sure
that she's meant to be a guide dog in the first place because it is
difficult for her to focus and that is why I walk in to objects. Also, I've
become very attached to her and I don't really want to give her up. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:56 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] retirement

Hi Hannah.
Is there some reason, other than attachment, that you don't want to send
Princess back to Pilot to see if she could be retrained to work with someone
else?
Do you think she's too disinterested in the job to work for anyone?  I
didn't really get that impression from your first message.
I've never had it happen, so far, but I imagine that if I had to retire a
young dog because he couldn't work in my particular environment, and the
school thought he'd be fine somewhere less hectic, I'd send him back.  I
think some of my classmates at TSE did this, regardless of ownership.
Though I might feel very differently if the school in question was not
returning my calls.
Tracy

Tracy

> Tina,
> Thank you for your concern. I am concerned as well. I'm not really 
> sure who has ownership, and I think I might have a copy of the 
> agreement but it's at home so I don't have access to it right now. I 
> will call and ask. If I do have ownership of Princess, then that would 
> be wonderful!
> hannah
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tina Thomas
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:41 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] retirement
>
> Hannah- I have been reading the messages concerning your situation with
> having to retire   your dog. I am very sorry to hear that Princess has to
> be
> retired at such a young age. However, what has me really concerned is 
> the fact that you believe that Pilot still has ownership of your dog. 
> Now your fellow Pilot grads have stated that you do have ownership upon
graduation.
> My question to you is do you have a copy of your ownership agreement? 
> And also, is it clear on the complete ownership? The reason I'm asking 
> this is because there have been some instances where schools have said 
> they grant full ownership upon completion of training however within 
> the ownership agreement there is a Claus that states that the school 
> may take procession of the dog if they deem necessary.
> Best
> Tina
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Hannah 
> Chadwick
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 8:53 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] retirement
>
> Thank you marsha and all. Yes, university life is very difficult for 
> dogs and it does take a lot. Guess Princess doesn't have it either.
> She is only 3 acording to Pilot, and they seem to want her back. I 
> haven't really been able to connect with them because they are not 
> calling me back.
> I can't have a pet in the dorms and I can't really afford to keep one 
> either, but I do have very close friends who would love to have Princess.
> I'm going to do my best to try to keep her, but since I don't have 
> ownership of her and she is only 3, I think that she'll get some more 
> training with Pilot and go work with someone else. Maybe she'll do 
> better in other environments, who knows...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marsha 
> Drenth
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 7:36 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] retirement
>
> Hannah,
>
>
> Awwww I am very very sorry to hear about this. Its so hard to retire 
> your parnter at any point. Espically during your semester. I have been 
> there done that, not sure i want to do that again.
>
> I am learning as a university student myself it takes a very very 
> special pup to be able to put up with university life. My university 
> also has many of the same challenges as yours. Squirrels, bikers, 
> skateboarders, thousands of students, cars, trucks, subway, train, 
> birds, and more. The pup so far is doing great, emma could not.
>
> I wish you luck. Will you keep Princess as a pet? And will you get 
> another guide? Just curious.
>
>
>
> Marsha drenth
> Sent with my IPhone
> http://adventureswith2feet4paws.blogspot.com
>
> On Nov 19, 2012, at 11:58 PM, "Hannah Chadwick" 
> <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>> I hope everyone is doing well. I haven't been posting or keeping up 
>> with everything recently because this is my first quarter at UC Davis 
>> and things have been pretty crazy. Now that everything is sort of 
>> falling in to place, I wanted to welcome everyone who is new to the 
>> list, the people who have returned, and an update about Princess.
>> Unfortunately she has not improved much since I last posted about her
> work.
>> it has been almost a year, and campus is a pretty busy place. We have 
>> a lot of distractions - all the students, over 20,000 bikes, and the 
>> millions of squirrels that we pass every day - so Princess is not 
>> doing so well. I thought that perhaps being here for over 3 months 
>> would help, but it has not, and she continuously walks me in to 
>> objects, wants to run after the squirrels or students, and seeks 
>> attention from everyone who says something along the lines of, "awww!
>> Cute
> doggie!".
>> With all this in mind, I have decided that I will retire her because 
>> of all the stress for her and for me.
>> I know that it will be a great loss since we've bonded, but I've also 
>> had a lot of time to get used to this idea. I don't know when I will 
>> retire her because Pilot has not been very good about returning my 
>> calls, but I do know that it will happen very soon.
>> I'm sure many of you have gone through this before, and I just hope 
>> that I won't be too depressed over it.
>> Once again I hope everyone is doing well with your guides, and happy 
>> Thanksgiving! :) All the best, Hannah
>>
>>
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