[nagdu] Pilot Dogs' Ownership Agreement

Fri Nov 23 16:52:35 UTC 2012

Rhonda,
    Would you be willing to share your ownership agreement with us? I have 
asked each of the training programs for their written agreements and only 
two - Guide Dogs of America & Guide Dog Foundation - have willingly done so.

Fraternally yours,
Marion Gwizdala


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "rhonda cruz" <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Ownership of your dog


> HI sara, and all.
> pilot dogs gives us students.
> full ownership after we leave.
> the campus.
>
> On Nov 20, 2012, at 10:16 AM, Debbie Cole wrote:
>
>> Sarah
>> Some schools offer complete ownership at time of Graduation.  I ahve
>> heard some schools make you wait 2 years.
>> You know After my fall and hospitalization when Leone pulled me in a
>> dog distractiona nd she was taken from me for evaluation and re-train
>> the ownership contract was changed for another year.  So here I wait.
>> I actually forgot about the ownership contract.  so make sure you do
>> the signing and sending it in and everything right on time.
>>
>> Debbie & Leone
>>
>> On 11/20/12, Sarah <coastergirl92 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Do most schools make you wait a year to claim ownership? Gdd
>>> does.  They said I will have ownership on October 7th, 2013.
>>>
>>> Sarah and Wizard
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 12:31:59 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] retirement
>>>
>>> Hannah,
>>>
>>> i am sorry you won't get to keep her.  That really stinks.  If my
>>> memory is serving me correctly, Princess is a poodle, right?
>>> There are other schools who use poodles, where you can get
>>> ownership.  Not that I am plugging for my school, but its
>>> something to think about.  I have also had a pup, and had to send
>>> her back to the school because of that ownership thing.  I won't
>>> go back to a school that doesn't give ownership every again.
>>>
>>> When is your semester over? Nor did I realize that you were
>>> living in dorms.  I am sorry.  atleast for me, I commute to my
>>> university so I can escape that life.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Marsha drenth
>>> Sent with my IPhone
>>> http://adventureswith2feet4paws.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> On Nov 20, 2012, at 11:52 AM, "Hannah Chadwick"
>>> <sparklylicious at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you marsha and all.  Yes, university life is very
>>> difficult for dogs
>>> and it does take a lot.  Guess Princess doesn't have it either.
>>> She is only 3 acording to Pilot, and they seem to want her back.
>>> I haven't
>>> really been able to connect with them because they are not
>>> calling me back.
>>> I can't have a pet in the dorms and I can't really afford to
>>> keep one
>>> either, but I do have very close friends who would love to have
>>> Princess.
>>> I'm going to do my best to try to keep her, but since I don't
>>> have ownership
>>> of her and she is only 3, I think that she'll get some more
>>> training with
>>> Pilot and go work with someone else.  Maybe she'll do better in
>>> other
>>> environments, who knows...
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Marsha Drenth
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 7:36 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] retirement
>>>
>>> Hannah,
>>>
>>>
>>> Awwww I am very very sorry to hear about this.  Its so hard to
>>> retire your
>>> parnter at any point.  Espically during your semester.  I have
>>> been there done
>>> that, not sure i want to do that again.
>>>
>>> I am learning as a university student myself it takes a very
>>> very special
>>> pup to be able to put up with university life.  My university
>>> also has many
>>> of the same challenges as yours.  Squirrels, bikers,
>>> skateboarders, thousands
>>> of students, cars, trucks, subway, train, birds, and more.  The
>>> pup so far is
>>> doing great, emma could not.
>>>
>>> I wish you luck.  Will you keep Princess as a pet? And will you
>>> get another
>>> guide? Just curious.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Marsha drenth
>>> Sent with my IPhone
>>> http://adventureswith2feet4paws.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> On Nov 19, 2012, at 11:58 PM, "Hannah Chadwick"
>>> <sparklylicious at gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> I hope everyone is doing well.  I haven't been posting or
>>> keeping up
>>> with everything recently because this is my first quarter at UC
>>> Davis
>>> and things have been pretty crazy.  Now that everything is sort
>>> of
>>> falling in to place, I wanted to welcome everyone who is new to
>>> the
>>> list, the people who have returned, and an update about
>>> Princess.
>>> Unfortunately she has not improved much since I last posted
>>> about her
>>> work.
>>> it has been almost a year, and campus is a pretty busy place.
>>> We have
>>> a lot of distractions - all the students, over 20,000 bikes, and
>>> the
>>> millions of squirrels that we pass every day - so Princess is
>>> not
>>> doing so well.  I thought that perhaps being here for over 3
>>> months
>>> would help, but it has not, and she continuously walks me in to
>>> objects, wants to run after the squirrels or students, and seeks
>>> attention from everyone who says something along the lines of,
>>> "awww! Cute
>>> doggie!".
>>> With all this in mind, I have decided that I will retire her
>>> because
>>> of all the stress for her and for me.
>>> I know that it will be a great loss since we've bonded, but I've
>>> also
>>> had a lot of time to get used to this idea.  I don't know when I
>>> will
>>> retire her because Pilot has not been very good about returning
>>> my
>>> calls, but I do know that it will happen very soon.
>>> I'm sure many of you have gone through this before, and I just
>>> hope
>>> that I won't be too depressed over it.
>>> Once again I hope everyone is doing well with your guides, and
>>> happy
>>> Thanksgiving! :) All the best, Hannah
>>>
>>>
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