[nagdu] Allergies

Fri Oct 12 19:28:57 UTC 2012

My theory on allergies in a nutshell.

If I am asking a favor or on private property I respect there wishes. All 
other times tuff sh^t.

If I have to work with someone for an extended period of time I will try to 
come up with a compromise, however, if people don't want to be reasonable 
and have a dialog, I don't have respect for them. That being said, I am not 
going to bring my dog near someone who I know is either allergic, or afraid. 
I will keep the maximum distance reasonably possible. If they respect me as 
a dog handler, I will respect there wishes.

People screaming about allergies on public transportation I ignore. They 
have the ability to get up and go elsewhere if they are so inclined.

Cab drivers, if they stop, they have to take the fare. If they complain, 
tuff sh^t.

Random people freaking out I also ignore.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Allergies

> It seems to me that, if this woman is hostile about a lot of things,
> leaving your dog home will not make her any less of a problem.  She may
> even say that she succeeded with that one, so what can she move on to
> next?
> I don't know; I'm not there.  It sounds very unpleasant.
> Me, I'm not leaving my dog home to satisfy someone else.  He's too helpful
> to me.  But you may feel differently.
> Tracy
>
>> I think Rebecca hit the nail on the head. For those of you who can't
>> conceive of not using a dog, it is different. I have loved my dogs, and I
>> enjoy using them. I will probably miss like the dickens using a dog, but 
>> I
>> also really do have to wonder if in the end it is worth it. I am not
>> saying it might not be an issue for most of you, but for me, that is a
>> real issue. Is it really worth it. I considered not taking him to our 
>> next
>> meeting in February because of this one woman, though I think she is
>> rather hostile about many a thing. Each of these situations has its
>> quirks. I know my rights; I know when I have them and when I don't. 
>> Rights
>> really don't touch this. There are always feelings involved in situations
>> like this. I really had rarely experienced this much until last January 
>> or
>> February; since then, I have found this to be a problem more and more
>> frequently. Even a dear friend of mine on a thread on the internet says
>> that it would be a problem for her because of the dog
>>  if we got together. I am not concerned about it because I doubt we ever
>> will. The re actions have been vastly different among the people
>> involved, which is of interest, too. I guess I mostly wonder how you
>> would all deal with it; how would you feel after you had been subjected
>> to a lot of these kinds of experiences?
>>
>> Cindy Lou
>>
>> On Oct 12, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Tracy Carcione wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe, if Cindy didn't have a dog, these people would be nicer.  Or
>>> maybe
>>> they'd find some other way to dis her.  It's hard to say.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>> I get what Cindy is saying. She's encountered a wave of people who may
>>>> or
>>>> may not have allergies and feels like "If I didn't have this dog, these
>>>> people would probably be nice to me".
>>>> It can make you question why you got something that is supposed to
>>>> enhance
>>>> your life ona tangible scale not a warm and fuzzy motherhood and apple
>>>> pie
>>>> scale.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 1:33 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Allergies
>>>>
>>>> I know all of the things you have stated here, Vanessa. The point is
>>>> that
>>>> when you start to run into a whole bunch of people, it becomes a
>>>> feelings
>>>> issue, not a legal issue and not a how to deal with it issue. Well, I
>>>> don't mean a how to deal with it issue to the extent that after a while
>>>> creativity becomes an issue. The woman on my committee was mostly dealt
>>>> with by our office manager in Louisville.
>>>>
>>>> CL
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 12, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Vanessa Lowery wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, let's see, when it comes to someone's privately owned car, we
>>>>> are
>>>>> basically stuck if the person says that our dogs are not welcome in
>>>>> the
>>>>> vehicle because others who may occupy the car at some point have
>>>>> allergies.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, in settings like church, a committee, or any other gathering,
>>>>> the solution is to maintain distance between the dog handler and the
>>>>> person with the allergy.  If you are part of a committee that meets in
>>>>> person, have the handler and the person wiht the allergy sit as far
>>>>> from
>>>>> each other as is possible.  In church, the building would probaly be
>>>>> large enough for the same thing to be done.
>>>>>
>>>>> But the other issue which I think could be fairly asked of the person
>>>>> who has the reported allergy to the dog is if that person is taking
>>>>> medication regularly (usually a weekly or bi-weekly shot), and can the
>>>>> person safely step up the dose when he/she and you are going to be
>>>>> sharing space.
>>>>>
>>>>> I ahve a friend wht dog allergies whom I have not visited in awhile,
>>>>> but
>>>>> when I did go to visit her, we planned my visit around her allergy
>>>>> shot
>>>>> schedule.  I would arrive at her home a few days after she had
>>>>> received
>>>>> her shot, thus giving her better coverage during my visit.  I stepped
>>>>> up
>>>>> the amount of grooming during our visit, the carpet in her home was
>>>>> vacuumed at least once during my visit, and after I left, she ould
>>>>> have
>>>>> the carpet shampooed.  As a result, she did not have problems.  And in
>>>>> fact, her allergy to dogs has been so well controlled that she now has
>>>>> a
>>>>> pet dog.  Granted, it is a short-haired dog.  And she selected a breed
>>>>> that does not generally shed heavily, so she can be around dogs as
>>>>> long
>>>>> as precautions are taken.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Vanessa Lowery, LGSW
>>>>> Adult and Community Services Division
>>>>> Adult Services Screening Unit
>>>>> 410-853-3550
>>>>> VLowery at dhr.state.md.us
>>>>>
>>>>>
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