[nagdu] Dogs and instructors

Tue Oct 16 20:47:31 UTC 2012

Most training programs ask that the dogs be on leach for  six months to a
year because they are going in to a new environment and it helps with the
bonding process as well as you and the dog getting adjusted to the new
surroundings. I have worked dogs for 25 years and I just came home a couple
of months ago and my dog is on leach in the house and on tie down at night. 
Tina 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 12:26 PM
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yeah but the trainers said I had to do it.  He follows me around anyway but
he can't be off-leash if there's dog iood down that's not his own.

 ----- Original Message -----
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I don't know that leaving your dog on leash for 6 months will show your dog
not to follow you.  When you are at home your dog will probably always
follow you around.

On 10/16/12, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
 Your dog will stay on leash for at least six months? BTW, Sarah, 
are the
 trainers still actually working with you only at home? How often 
are they
 there.  I am sort of confused as to what your status is with the 
school.

 CL

 On Oct 16, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Sarah wrote:

 my dog will stay on leash for at least 6 months.  He still tries 
to follow
 me if I let him off in my room but he's always on leash or 
tie-down except
 for when I play with him in the yard.  But when the instructors 
are here
 he's just on leash until they say to put his harness on.

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net
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 Date sent: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:34:28 -0400
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 Hi Sarah,
 Can you keep your dog on leash with you, then you know what is
 happening with him at all times.
 This is a problem living with family and taking training, with a 
guide
 dog.
 One of the things I mentioned to you before you got the dog.
 Now you have him, and just keep him on leash so he gets to know 
you.
 I am also in my second month with my guide, and when anyone 
comes to
 the door, he is on leash.
 I even ask my husband not to open door until dog is on leash.
 Then I know I have the control.
 Wishing you the best.
 Original message:
 They said to just do a strong leash correction but I wish they
 wouldn't make eye contact and interact with the dog.

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Guide
 Dog Users'"<nagdu at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 12:34:28 +0000
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors

 It's an excuse if they are doing this then telling you to "keep
 him under control" without telling you how to make that happen.

 -----Original Message-----
 From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah
 Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 2:59 PM
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 It's not excuses they told me that the dogs should fet excited
 because they have been working with the dogs for the past 6
 months.  And every time they come they always make contact with
 the dog to make him more excited.

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 Sounds like excuse making to me.

 -----Original Message-----
 From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah
 Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 6:32 PM
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 Users
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors

 Yeah I'll ask Emceafor about it, but the last time they just 
said
 that the dogs will always get excited.

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
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 Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:11:17 -0500
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors

 Did you talk with the instrutors about it? When I had a similar
 problem, I found the dog would work for me in places we hadn't
 been before.  Be sure you are talking about it.

 Cindy

 On Oct 14, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Sarah wrote:

 With Wizard, he drags me out the gate to get to Emily and will
 not listen to me very good when they're around, and it makes me
 feel more discouraged every time they come over.  Then if they
 get a few feet behind us, he won't go.  They wanted to stay a 
few
 blocks behind us but Wizard wouldn't hop up and I don't know how
 to fix it.

 Sarah and Wizard

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Chantel Cuddemi" <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
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 Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:34:26 -0400
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors

 Motley only wagged his tail at the trainer once when she came
 over with some
 scissors to cut the hair around his eyes.

 We were told to keep the dogs under control.

 It wasn't easy at the beginning, but we did it somehow.

 Chantel and Motley

 -----Original Message-----
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 Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 2:57 AM
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 Users
 Subject: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors

 Hello everyone,
 When you first got your dogs, did your dogs go nuts when they
 saw
 the trainers? What did you do? Did you let them go nuts and say
 hi to the trainers or get them under control?

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Chantel Cuddemi" <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
 To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
 Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 21:51:54 -0400
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] O&M services with a dog

 Hi all,

 When I first came home from Pilot with Motley, the trainer and
 my
 mobility
 instructor worked on my area with Motley and I.

 My mobility instructor seemed to be familiar with guide dogs
 because she and
 the trainer go way back.

 Anyhow, she was able to help Motley and I along with routes here
 in my
 neighborhood, and it's worked out great!

 All my best,

 Chantel and Motley

 -----Original Message-----
 From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy
 Ray
 Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 12:31 PM
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 Users
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] O&M services with a dog

 I know that lots of these folks don't know much about dog use,
 but as they
 show us a route, can't we tell them what we need? That's how
 I've
 dealt with
 any here.

 Cindy Lou

 On Oct 13, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Margo and Arrow wrote:

 We have an O and M instructor in this area who's very familiar
 with how
 guide dog teams work.  I hear she's leaving, though.  I think
 one
 or two of
 the O and M instructors at our private blindness agency know
 about dogs,
 too, but, yes, those are few and far between.  I know some of
 the
 schools
 offer O and M people the opportunity to work with a dog, etc.,
 but I wonder
 how much they get to learn in the space of a couple of days.  In
 other
 words, do they learn enough to be able to help someone learn a
 route or to
 know what the dog is or isn't dong or the owner is or isn't
 doing.

 Margo and Arrow

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