[nagdu] Dogs and instructors

Wed Oct 17 06:17:23 UTC 2012

Hi list,
this discussion is very interesting to read.
Having a guide dog on leash at home is a bit surprise for me.
I am not saying it is wrong or something, but here in Slovakia we don't 
put a guide on leash or tie down at home.
Maria

On 16.10.2012 21:10, Debbie Cole wrote:
> Jus for the record...
> I'm from the same school as Sarah.
> My dog Leone  is also on leash at home and on tie down in the home and
> supposedly for a year.  We hve a problem.  At the school it was
> different.  She came to me when i held the leash in hand.  At home she
> never comes to me when i call her name to leash up.  Tie down
> constantly is to teach her who's boss.  So far she still doesn't come
> to me.  In the beginning  I told our trainer she comes to me when i
> ahve a treat or a raw almond in hand.  I was told then give her the
> treat.  So I did.  But it encouraged her "I will only do things for
> Debbie if she gives me a treat"  This is wrong.  I made a mistake of
> starting this habit with her.  It's dam hard to break.
> So tie down it is.  there are no treats  for her now.  Main goal is to
> break that habit and get her to come to me.  She actually runs around
> the furniture to avoid me.
> I'm working on it but i WON'T play her game.
>
> On 10/16/12, Cindy Ray<cindyray at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> Your dog will stay on leash for at least six months? BTW, Sarah, are the
>> trainers still actually working with you only at home? How often are they
>> there. I am sort of confused as to what your status is with the school.
>>
>> CL
>>
>> On Oct 16, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Sarah wrote:
>>
>>> my dog will stay on leash for at least 6 months.  He still tries to follow
>>> me if I let him off in my room but he's always on leash or tie-down except
>>> for when I play with him in the yard.  But when the instructors are here
>>> he's just on leash until they say to put his harness on.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: d m gina<dmgina at samobile.net
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:34:28 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors
>>>
>>> Hi Sarah,
>>> Can you keep your dog on leash with you, then you know what is
>>> happening with him at all times.
>>> This is a problem living with family and taking training, with a guide
>>> dog.
>>> One of the things I mentioned to you before you got the dog.
>>> Now you have him, and just keep him on leash so he gets to know you.
>>> I am also in my second month with my guide, and when anyone comes to
>>> the door, he is on leash.
>>> I even ask my husband not to open door until dog is on leash.
>>> Then I know I have the control.
>>> Wishing you the best.
>>> Original message:
>>> They said to just do a strong leash correction but I wish they
>>> wouldn't make eye contact and interact with the dog.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)"<REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,       the National Association of Guide
>>> Dog Users'"<nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 12:34:28 +0000
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors
>>>
>>> It's an excuse if they are doing this then telling you to "keep
>>> him under control" without telling you how to make that happen.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah
>>> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 2:59 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors
>>>
>>> It's not excuses they told me that the dogs should fet excited
>>> because they have been working with the dogs for the past 6
>>> months.  And every time they come they always make contact with
>>> the dog to make him more excited.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)"<REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,       the National Association of Guide
>>> Dog Users'"<nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:55:00 +0000
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors
>>>
>>> Sounds like excuse making to me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 6:32 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors
>>>
>>> Yeah I'll ask Emceafor about it, but the last time they just said
>>> that the dogs will always get excited.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Cindy Ray<cindyray at gmail.com
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users"<nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:11:17 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors
>>>
>>> Did you talk with the instrutors about it? When I had a similar
>>> problem, I found the dog would work for me in places we hadn't
>>> been before.  Be sure you are talking about it.
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>> On Oct 14, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Sarah wrote:
>>>
>>> With Wizard, he drags me out the gate to get to Emily and will
>>> not listen to me very good when they're around, and it makes me
>>> feel more discouraged every time they come over.  Then if they
>>> get a few feet behind us, he won't go.  They wanted to stay a few
>>> blocks behind us but Wizard wouldn't hop up and I don't know how
>>> to fix it.
>>>
>>> Sarah and Wizard
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Chantel Cuddemi"<jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users'"<nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:34:26 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors
>>>
>>> Motley only wagged his tail at the trainer once when she came
>>> over with some
>>> scissors to cut the hair around his eyes.
>>>
>>> We were told to keep the dogs under control.
>>>
>>> It wasn't easy at the beginning, but we did it somehow.
>>>
>>> Chantel and Motley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 2:57 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> When you first got your dogs, did your dogs go nuts when they
>>> saw
>>> the trainers? What did you do? Did you let them go nuts and say
>>> hi to the trainers or get them under control?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Chantel Cuddemi"<jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users'"<nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 21:51:54 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] O&M services with a dog
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> When I first came home from Pilot with Motley, the trainer and
>>> my
>>> mobility
>>> instructor worked on my area with Motley and I.
>>>
>>> My mobility instructor seemed to be familiar with guide dogs
>>> because she and
>>> the trainer go way back.
>>>
>>> Anyhow, she was able to help Motley and I along with routes here
>>> in my
>>> neighborhood, and it's worked out great!
>>>
>>> All my best,
>>>
>>> Chantel and Motley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy
>>> Ray
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 12:31 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] O&M services with a dog
>>>
>>> I know that lots of these folks don't know much about dog use,
>>> but as they
>>> show us a route, can't we tell them what we need? That's how
>>> I've
>>> dealt with
>>> any here.
>>>
>>> Cindy Lou
>>>
>>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Margo and Arrow wrote:
>>>
>>> We have an O and M instructor in this area who's very familiar
>>> with how
>>> guide dog teams work.  I hear she's leaving, though.  I think
>>> one
>>> or two of
>>> the O and M instructors at our private blindness agency know
>>> about dogs,
>>> too, but, yes, those are few and far between.  I know some of
>>> the
>>> schools
>>> offer O and M people the opportunity to work with a dog, etc.,
>>> but I wonder
>>> how much they get to learn in the space of a couple of days.  In
>>> other
>>> words, do they learn enough to be able to help someone learn a
>>> route or to
>>> know what the dog is or isn't dong or the owner is or isn't
>>> doing.
>>>
>>> Margo and Arrow
>>>
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