[nagdu] things on the floor was Re: Dogs and instructors

Wed Oct 17 16:19:17 UTC 2012

I guess this goes under the "puppy proofing" rule. If you think your pup is going to chew on it, then don't have it on the floor. If a pup chews up say a shoe, off leash, then that pup goes back on leash for a certain amount of time. There has to be rules. 

I do agree that outdoor guiding work is structured. Inside out harness is not. Such a new concept for me, is that my new guide leash guides. This could bring up a long list of discussions. But if I were in my home, needing to be guided, technically that pup is working. Its not the harness that makes our guides, guide dogs. Its what it does for us. So yes they pups are allowed to play and be loved, but at the same time, if they are expected to have manners out of the home, inside of the home is the same. 

Different programs focus on different things. I guess that is what I look for in a guide, one who can behave in my home. 

Just my two cents, 

Marsha drenth  
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On Oct 17, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Meghan Whalen <mewhalen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Guiding is a controlled structured activity.  Off leash at home is not.  Dogs know the difference for sure.  A lot of it is how they are raised.  A lot of it is not, though, too.  If the dog takes socks/wallets/whatever, put said things away.  Problem solved.  Just my thoughts, of course, but I believe in setting the dog up for success instead of creating an environment full of potential failure.
> 
> Meghan
> 
> On 10/17/2012 10:05 AM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
>> Marsha, I agree with you.
>> Cindy, your answer makes sense, I just don't understand why a dog would guide well then act like an ass at home.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Subject: [nagdu] things on the floor was Re: Dogs and instructors
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>> Maybe I won't be liked for what I have to say on this topic. I think a dogs house manners have alot to do with what the puppy raisers teach the puppys in those first few months. I know dogs will be dogs, but not all dogs chew everything in sight. Also if the dog is worked enough, no board, then there is no reason for a pup to chew on things in the home. We as handlers can influence our dogs not to chew on things. Like I said this is my opinion only.
>> 
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>> 
>> Marsha drenth
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>> On Oct 17, 2012, at 9:35 AM, "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Does anybody else find it irronic that we're supposed to trust these dogs to keep us safe in traffic but we can't trust them to act properly when we leave stuff on the floor?
>>> That isn't logical
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley Coleman
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 8:41 AM
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>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors
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>>> I have to be very careful about what I leave on the floor as well.
>>> You could try leaving toys down for your dog to see if that will
>>> distract him from picking up your socks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/17/12, Sarah <coastergirl92 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Cool! That's awesome I'll try that with my dog if he stops
>>>> putting socks in his mouth and stuff.
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Ashley Coleman <amc05111 at gmail.com
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>> Date sent: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 19:17:21 -0400
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors
>>>> 
>>>> Cindy, that's what I've been told as well; keep the dog on
>>>> leash/tie
>>>> down for about two weeks and slowly introduce the dog to
>>>> supervised
>>>> time off leash.  My dog was completely off leash by the fourth
>>>> week
>>>> home, and I tie him during the night.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/16/12, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Well, maybe I am misunderstanding something here, but when I
>>>> have received
>>>> my dogs, I was told to keep them on leash full time for two
>>>> weks; then I can
>>>> begin letting them off.  I usually have them pretty much off in
>>>> the house by
>>>> three weeks to a month depending on their reaction.  I always
>>>> tie them at
>>>> night.  So this is the first time I have heard of students at
>>>> the schools
>>>> being told to keep dogs on leash or tie down six months to a
>>>> year.  I was
>>>> never told that.
>>>> 
>>>> Cindy Lou
>>>> 
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