[nagdu] things on the floor was Re: Dogs and instructors

Wed Oct 17 16:39:13 UTC 2012

I do agree that the puppy trainers should train the pups to not chew
things.  Labs are forever puppies.  Babies teething.  I ahven't had a
problem with my yellow Lab chewing things off the floor or furniture
but she steals socks and runs with it in her mouth.  I might have
unmatched socks on my dresser and she steals them.  I have to keep
doors closed when not on tie down or leash.

On 10/17/12, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com> wrote:
> I guess this goes under the "puppy proofing" rule. If you think your pup is
> going to chew on it, then don't have it on the floor. If a pup chews up say
> a shoe, off leash, then that pup goes back on leash for a certain amount of
> time. There has to be rules.
>
> I do agree that outdoor guiding work is structured. Inside out harness is
> not. Such a new concept for me, is that my new guide leash guides. This
> could bring up a long list of discussions. But if I were in my home, needing
> to be guided, technically that pup is working. Its not the harness that
> makes our guides, guide dogs. Its what it does for us. So yes they pups are
> allowed to play and be loved, but at the same time, if they are expected to
> have manners out of the home, inside of the home is the same.
>
> Different programs focus on different things. I guess that is what I look
> for in a guide, one who can behave in my home.
>
> Just my two cents,
>
> Marsha drenth
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>
> On Oct 17, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Meghan Whalen <mewhalen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Guiding is a controlled structured activity.  Off leash at home is not.
>> Dogs know the difference for sure.  A lot of it is how they are raised.  A
>> lot of it is not, though, too.  If the dog takes socks/wallets/whatever,
>> put said things away.  Problem solved.  Just my thoughts, of course, but I
>> believe in setting the dog up for success instead of creating an
>> environment full of potential failure.
>>
>> Meghan
>>
>> On 10/17/2012 10:05 AM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
>>> Marsha, I agree with you.
>>> Cindy, your answer makes sense, I just don't understand why a dog would
>>> guide well then act like an ass at home.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marsha Drenth
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 11:01 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: [nagdu] things on the floor was Re: Dogs and instructors
>>>
>>> Maybe I won't be liked for what I have to say on this topic. I think a
>>> dogs house manners have alot to do with what the puppy raisers teach the
>>> puppys in those first few months. I know dogs will be dogs, but not all
>>> dogs chew everything in sight. Also if the dog is worked enough, no
>>> board, then there is no reason for a pup to chew on things in the home.
>>> We as handlers can influence our dogs not to chew on things. Like I said
>>> this is my opinion only.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Marsha drenth
>>> Sent with my IPhone
>>> http://adventureswith2feet4paws.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> On Oct 17, 2012, at 9:35 AM, "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)"
>>> <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does anybody else find it irronic that we're supposed to trust these
>>>> dogs to keep us safe in traffic but we can't trust them to act properly
>>>> when we leave stuff on the floor?
>>>> That isn't logical
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley
>>>> Coleman
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 8:41 AM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors
>>>>
>>>> I have to be very careful about what I leave on the floor as well.
>>>> You could try leaving toys down for your dog to see if that will
>>>> distract him from picking up your socks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/17/12, Sarah <coastergirl92 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Cool! That's awesome I'll try that with my dog if he stops
>>>>> putting socks in his mouth and stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Ashley Coleman <amc05111 at gmail.com
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Date sent: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 19:17:21 -0400
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy, that's what I've been told as well; keep the dog on
>>>>> leash/tie
>>>>> down for about two weeks and slowly introduce the dog to
>>>>> supervised
>>>>> time off leash.  My dog was completely off leash by the fourth
>>>>> week
>>>>> home, and I tie him during the night.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/16/12, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Well, maybe I am misunderstanding something here, but when I
>>>>> have received
>>>>> my dogs, I was told to keep them on leash full time for two
>>>>> weks; then I can
>>>>> begin letting them off.  I usually have them pretty much off in
>>>>> the house by
>>>>> three weeks to a month depending on their reaction.  I always
>>>>> tie them at
>>>>> night.  So this is the first time I have heard of students at
>>>>> the schools
>>>>> being told to keep dogs on leash or tie down six months to a
>>>>> year.  I was
>>>>> never told that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Lou
>>>>>
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