[nagdu] things on the floor was Re: Dogs and instructors

melissa R green graduate56 at juno.com
Wed Oct 17 19:46:49 UTC 2012


Its good to know that other dogs know commands like go to bed.
My mom taught my dog eat.  She knows that command and go to bed.
Dogs are so smart.


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Julie McGinnity" <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] things on the floor was Re: Dogs and instructors


I think this discussion only shows us that all dogs are different.  I
never keep my dog on tiedown or leash in the house because she can
handle the freedom very well.  She also knows the "go to bed" command.
 :)  But I have many friends who do this because their dogs can't
handle that much freedom or can't handle it all the time.  I think
it's Marsha who said that it's what you look for in a guide.  To be
honest, some days my dog behaves better in the house than she does
when we're out, and I think I would prefer it the other way around.  I
think there is also a difference in behavior between younger and older
dogs.  You also have to consider the temperament of the dog and how
playful it is.  Some dogs will go on a destructive rampage if they are
not played with enough.

I agree with Cindy here.  All dogs have their moments.  Even if you
know your dog can behave well around food, it is possible to slip.
But the moments should be only that: moments.  If it happens every
day, it turns from a moment to a problem.

On 10/17/12, Debbie Cole <debbieanne1124 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I do agree that the puppy trainers should train the pups to not chew
> things.  Labs are forever puppies.  Babies teething.  I ahven't had a
> problem with my yellow Lab chewing things off the floor or furniture
> but she steals socks and runs with it in her mouth.  I might have
> unmatched socks on my dresser and she steals them.  I have to keep
> doors closed when not on tie down or leash.
>
> On 10/17/12, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I guess this goes under the "puppy proofing" rule. If you think your pup
>> is
>> going to chew on it, then don't have it on the floor. If a pup chews up
>> say
>> a shoe, off leash, then that pup goes back on leash for a certain amount
>> of
>> time. There has to be rules.
>>
>> I do agree that outdoor guiding work is structured. Inside out harness is
>> not. Such a new concept for me, is that my new guide leash guides. This
>> could bring up a long list of discussions. But if I were in my home,
>> needing
>> to be guided, technically that pup is working. Its not the harness that
>> makes our guides, guide dogs. Its what it does for us. So yes they pups
>> are
>> allowed to play and be loved, but at the same time, if they are expected
>> to
>> have manners out of the home, inside of the home is the same.
>>
>> Different programs focus on different things. I guess that is what I look
>> for in a guide, one who can behave in my home.
>>
>> Just my two cents,
>>
>> Marsha drenth
>> Sent with my IPhone
>> http://adventureswith2feet4paws.blogspot.com
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Meghan Whalen <mewhalen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Guiding is a controlled structured activity.  Off leash at home is not.
>>> Dogs know the difference for sure.  A lot of it is how they are raised.
>>> A
>>> lot of it is not, though, too.  If the dog takes socks/wallets/whatever,
>>> put said things away.  Problem solved.  Just my thoughts, of course, but
>>> I
>>> believe in setting the dog up for success instead of creating an
>>> environment full of potential failure.
>>>
>>> Meghan
>>>
>>> On 10/17/2012 10:05 AM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
>>>> Marsha, I agree with you.
>>>> Cindy, your answer makes sense, I just don't understand why a dog would
>>>> guide well then act like an ass at home.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marsha
>>>> Drenth
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 11:01 AM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] things on the floor was Re: Dogs and instructors
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I won't be liked for what I have to say on this topic. I think a
>>>> dogs house manners have alot to do with what the puppy raisers teach
>>>> the
>>>> puppys in those first few months. I know dogs will be dogs, but not all
>>>> dogs chew everything in sight. Also if the dog is worked enough, no
>>>> board, then there is no reason for a pup to chew on things in the home.
>>>> We as handlers can influence our dogs not to chew on things. Like I
>>>> said
>>>> this is my opinion only.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marsha drenth
>>>> Sent with my IPhone
>>>> http://adventureswith2feet4paws.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 17, 2012, at 9:35 AM, "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)"
>>>> <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Does anybody else find it irronic that we're supposed to trust these
>>>>> dogs to keep us safe in traffic but we can't trust them to act
>>>>> properly
>>>>> when we leave stuff on the floor?
>>>>> That isn't logical
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley
>>>>> Coleman
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 8:41 AM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors
>>>>>
>>>>> I have to be very careful about what I leave on the floor as well.
>>>>> You could try leaving toys down for your dog to see if that will
>>>>> distract him from picking up your socks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/17/12, Sarah <coastergirl92 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Cool! That's awesome I'll try that with my dog if he stops
>>>>>> putting socks in his mouth and stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Ashley Coleman <amc05111 at gmail.com
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Date sent: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 19:17:21 -0400
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy, that's what I've been told as well; keep the dog on
>>>>>> leash/tie
>>>>>> down for about two weeks and slowly introduce the dog to
>>>>>> supervised
>>>>>> time off leash.  My dog was completely off leash by the fourth
>>>>>> week
>>>>>> home, and I tie him during the night.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/16/12, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Well, maybe I am misunderstanding something here, but when I
>>>>>> have received
>>>>>> my dogs, I was told to keep them on leash full time for two
>>>>>> weks; then I can
>>>>>> begin letting them off.  I usually have them pretty much off in
>>>>>> the house by
>>>>>> three weeks to a month depending on their reaction.  I always
>>>>>> tie them at
>>>>>> night.  So this is the first time I have heard of students at
>>>>>> the schools
>>>>>> being told to keep dogs on leash or tie down six months to a
>>>>>> year.  I was
>>>>>> never told that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Lou
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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-- 
Julie McG
 Lindbergh High School class of 2009, National Federation of the Blind
of Missouri recording secretary,
Missouri Association of Guide dog Users President,
and proud graduate of Guiding Eyes for the Blind

"For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
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