[nagdu] newspaper practice at TSE was Re: First dog concerns

[Buddy Brannan]

One further ore on this.

Dogs are very resilient.

There are a couple things to keep in mind here:

First, the correction in this case is delivered, not by the handler, but rather by the driver of the car. In the dog's mind, the consequence of getting too close to the moving vehicle is external to the handler and belongs to the thing he got too close to. It's certainly more humane then hitting the dog's nose with the car. The dog eventually associates getting too close to a car with something mildly unpleasant. For a similar example, see early Seeing Eye histories, where the example is given of throwing a noisy rattly can of rocks at a dog's feet to stop him from chasing chickens. 

As with all aspects of training, I expect this has to be balanced with lots of other things in order to not overwhelm the dog or compromise his confidence. However, I don't believe that such a method would erode any confidence, but rather gives the dog a sense that traffic is something that requires caution. In the TSE traffic lecture, we are told that dogs are taught to respect traffic, but also to be a little afraid of it. Fear is not a bad thing. Fear is a natural, healthy reaction that can keep us all alive. 
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On Sep 6, 2012, at 7:11 AM, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jenny, 
> 
> Its okay for you to disagree with a school on their practices. It would be interesting to hear what the newspaper thing really is. It must be a new practice, as when I was there that never happened. I am not saying its right or wrong, but perhaps if we know more of how its done and how then maybe it won't sound so bad. 
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> Marsha drenthSent from my iPhone
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> On Sep 5, 2012, at 7:20 PM, Jenny Keller <jlperdue3 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> OK, 
>> 
>> Please don't think I'm trying to flame a school of anything.  but I DO NOT believe in hitting a dog with anything.  that's what a leash correction is for!
>> 
>> In my opinion, and remember that I said that.  the practice of hitting your dog with anything, even a newspaper, is barbaric.  also, in this situation, someone can be just a hair off, and do exactly what had been done to this dog and cause serious psychological and confidence issues.  Which seems to be the case here.
>> 
>> Just my opinion,
>> 
>> Jenny
>> On Sep 4, 2012, at 3:53 PM, Cindy Ray wrote:
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>>> That is a part of their training that they always receive. That's how they learn about traffic checks.
>>> 
>>> Cindy Lou
>>> 
>>> On Sep 4, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Criminal Justice Major wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi, all,
>>>> One question I have to ask is that when Chris H was in training and the dog got too close in trafic, why was a rolled up newspaper used?
>>>> *Am curious*
>>>> I figure something like that would definitely not only traumatize the dog, but wouldn't it lower confidence?
>>>> Bibi
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