[nagdu] newspaper practice at TSE was Re: First dog concerns

[Jenny Keller]

Well, I still don't agree with the practice, as as we now see with a dog that was just gotten.  sometimes, people don't have perfect aim, and this dog was bopped in the eye and not the nose.

We don't know if any other dogs have been hit in the eye, but GOD forbid there be an injury because of a mistaken aim.  Also, again, as I've said.  there could be, and probably has been in the past, psychological issues if something goes wrong.  

Other schools seem to handle it without striking the dog in a place on their head that could hit their eyes.  

JMO,

Jenny
On Sep 6, 2012, at 8:44 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> If we're talking about what I think we're talking about, this isn't a new practice and is used to help reinforce traffic work. That is to say, if the dog gets too close to the moving car, it gets bopped on the nose, out the car window, with a rolled up newspaper (which John Kean called a "logic probe", LOL) Marcia, this is rarely seen in class.
> 
> In such a situation, a leash correction wouldn't exactly work, nor would it be appropriate. 
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> On Sep 6, 2012, at 7:11 AM, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Jenny, 
>> 
>> Its okay for you to disagree with a school on their practices. It would be interesting to hear what the newspaper thing really is. It must be a new practice, as when I was there that never happened. I am not saying its right or wrong, but perhaps if we know more of how its done and how then maybe it won't sound so bad. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha drenthSent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 5, 2012, at 7:20 PM, Jenny Keller <jlperdue3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> OK, 
>>> 
>>> Please don't think I'm trying to flame a school of anything.  but I DO NOT believe in hitting a dog with anything.  that's what a leash correction is for!
>>> 
>>> In my opinion, and remember that I said that.  the practice of hitting your dog with anything, even a newspaper, is barbaric.  also, in this situation, someone can be just a hair off, and do exactly what had been done to this dog and cause serious psychological and confidence issues.  Which seems to be the case here.
>>> 
>>> Just my opinion,
>>> 
>>> Jenny
>>> On Sep 4, 2012, at 3:53 PM, Cindy Ray wrote:
>>> 
>>>> That is a part of their training that they always receive. That's how they learn about traffic checks.
>>>> 
>>>> Cindy Lou
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 4, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Criminal Justice Major wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi, all,
>>>>> One question I have to ask is that when Chris H was in training and the dog got too close in trafic, why was a rolled up newspaper used?
>>>>> *Am curious*
>>>>> I figure something like that would definitely not only traumatize the dog, but wouldn't it lower confidence?
>>>>> Bibi
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