[nagdu] How Many Routes With Planned Traffic Checks atYour School

rhonda cruz rhondaprincess at gmail.com
Sun Sep 9 00:42:17 UTC 2012 

 hi i attended Pilot dogs. i think there was never any traffic  checks.
 but i get them often now after being  a team for 3 years.

 i trust my dog more then ever now.



On Sep 8, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Julie McGinnity wrote:

> I attended Guiding Eyes for the Blind in 2008.  I believe we had a
> couple traffic checks, but I do not remember the exact number.  I had
> a natural taffic check before we did the planned ones, and then I had
> two natural traffic checks when we went to New York City.  If you
> wanna teach a blind person to trust a guide dog, you take them to New
> York City.
> 
> On 9/8/12, Chantel Cuddemi <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Well, now that makes sense. We did not have any traffic checks that were
>> set
>> up.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Steven Johnson
>> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 2:55 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How Many Routes With Planned Traffic Checks atYour
>> School
>> 
>> Just to clarify, a natural traffic check is different from one that is set
>> up or staged.  A natural traffic check is one that generally occurs in our
>> day to day work with our dogs, and happen anywhere anytime.  I had a couple
>> of these while in my most recent class and they were not part of the
>> training, but just occurred because of, probably, the driver's lack of
>> attention to what was around them.  So, when I referred to set up checks
>> and
>> natural checks, this is the difference.  Make sense?
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Chantel Cuddemi
>> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 1:30 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How Many Routes With Planned Traffic Checks at Your
>> School
>> 
>> Yeah, but we're talking about traffic checks.
>> 
>> Ray didn't have us do traffic checks.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Passle Helminski
>> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 2:26 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] How Many Routes With Planned Traffic Checks at Your
>> School
>> 
>> Pilot Dogs does do natural traffic, just ask Ray the director of training.
>> 
>> Passle  and her Pilot dog
>> 
>> 
>>> Pilot Dogs doesn't do traffic checks.
>>> 
>>> My trainer told us that they used to do them but they found that the
>>> dogs and students were freaked out by them.
>>> 
>>> Chantel and Pilot Dog Motley
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Terrie Terlau
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 12:07 PM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Subject: [nagdu] How Many Routes With Planned Traffic Checks at Your
>>> School
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> I am very interested in knowing from graduates of a variety of schools
>>> whether your school had an instructor provide a planned traffic check
>>> and
>> if
>>> so how many routes or outings this happened on. I am not comparing in
>>> terms of being judgmental, but I am curious as to how various schools
>>> handle
>> this.
>>> Having only been to Seeing Eye, I don't know first-hand what other
>>> schools do and am very interested.
>>> 
>>> My memory from 2002 is that Seeing Eye has someone do traffic checks on
>>> 2
>> or
>>> 3 days, probably 4 or 5 routes. Does this sound right to more recent
>>> grads?
>>> How about other schools?
>>> 
>>> Looking forward to learning,
>>> Terrie
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Shannon Dyer
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 11:12 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] GDF traffic training was re: Seeking suggestions
>>> for how to maintain a dog's traffic training
>>> 
>>> Yes. I would say the traffic training is like that of other schools.
>>> I'm
>> not
>>> sure what this other practice is. When I've talked with people from
>>> other schools about their experiences with traffic training, they've
>>> seemed very much like what I've experienced on class at GDF.
>>> 
>>> Shannon and Ace
>>> Shannon Dyer
>>> Alumni Council Member,
>>> Guide Dog Foundation for the Blind, Inc R  and America's VetDogsR,  The
>>> Veteran's K-9 Corps Inc R Providing "Second Sight" R since 1946
>>> 371 E. Jericho Turnpike, Smithtown, NY 11787
>>> Office: 631-930-9000, Toll-free: 866-282-8047 solsticesinger at gmail.com
>>> To make a donation that can change a life...contact the Guide Dog
>> Foundation
>>> at
>>> www.guidedog.org
>>> or America's VetDogs the Veterans K-9 Corps at www.vetdogs.org Visit us
>>> on facebook at:
>>> www.facebook.com/GuideDogFoundation or www.facebook.com/AmericasVetDogs
>>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2012, at 4:32 PM, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> For the most part I am assuming that they do their traffic training
>>>> just
>>> as other schools. But Terrie mentioned a different practice that no one
>> else
>>> did, and I was curious of what that is?
>>>> 
>>>> Waiting anixously for my class and my new pup!
>>>> 
>>>> Marsha drenthSent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 7, 2012, at 9:44 AM, Shannon Dyer <solsticesinger at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What kinds of things are you wanting to know? I'm happy to help if
>>>>> I
>> know
>>> what information you're looking for.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Shannon and Ace
>>>>> Shannon Dyer
>>>>> Alumni Council Member,
>>>>> Guide Dog Foundation for the Blind, Inc  R  and  America's
>>>>> VetDogsR,  The Veteran's K-9 Corps Inc R  Providing "Second Sight" R
>>>>> since 1946
>>>>> 371 E. Jericho Turnpike, Smithtown, NY 11787
>>>>> Office: 631-930-9000, Toll-free: 866-282-8047
>>>>> solsticesinger at gmail.com  To make a donation that can change a
>>>>> life...contact the Guide Dog
>>> Foundation at
>>>>> www.guidedog.org
>>>>> or America's VetDogs the Veterans K-9 Corps at  www.vetdogs.org
>>>>> Visit us on facebook at:
>>>>> www.facebook.com/GuideDogFoundation or
>>>>> www.facebook.com/AmericasVetDogs
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 7, 2012, at 9:08 AM, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would like to know more about the GDF traffic training, I'm
>>>>>> going
>> into
>>> class in just a few weeks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> thank you,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marsha drenthSent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 6, 2012, at 9:46 PM, "Terrie Terlau" <terrieter at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> Guide Dog Foundation teaches their students a technique for doing
>>> traffic
>>>>>>> checks with their dogs. This is the only school that I know of
>>>>>>> that
>>> does
>>>>>>> this. Seeing Eye has said not to do so. Sometimes dogs work
>>>>>>> pretty
>>> close to
>>>>>>> cars, at least close enough that the public thinks there is a
>>>>>>> problem
>>> when
>>>>>>> there is not. But the best thing to do if you are concerned about
>> your
>>> dog's
>>>>>>> traffic work is to call your school and get someone out who
>>>>>>> really
>>> knows
>>>>>>> what to look for. I would trust the opinions of very few O&M
>>> instructors and
>>>>>>> probably not the opinion of a sighted friend because they don't
>>>>>>> know
>>> how
>>>>>>> close is too close in terms of whether a dog is really paying
>> attention
>>> to
>>>>>>> traffic and doing it right.
>>>>>>> JMO.
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Terrie Terlau
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>> On
>>> Behalf
>>>>>>> Of Bryan Jones
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 10:42 AM
>>>>>>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing
>>>>>>> List
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Seeking suggestions for how to maintain a dog's
>>> traffic
>>>>>>> training
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Reading another thread that mentions traffic-check training
>>>>>>> methods
>>> used at
>>>>>>> school got me wondering about ways to safely maintain me and my
>>>>>>> dog's  traffic training. can any of you share any methods you use
>>>>>>> to
>> maintain
>>> your
>>>>>>> dog's traffic training? My pup has always cut things very close
>>>>>>> in
>>> relation
>>>>>>> to motor vehicles, whether parked or moving, but recently I feel
>> she's
>>> been
>>>>>>> cutting things even closer.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts,  Bryan
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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> 
> 
> -- 
> Julie McG
> Lindbergh High School class of 2009, National Federation of the Blind
> of Missouri recording secretary,
> Missouri Association of Guide dog Users President,
> and proud graduate of Guiding Eyes for the Blind
> 
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
> life."
> John 3:16
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