[nagdu] Nowhere to go?

Sarah coastergirl92 at gmail.com
Tue Sep 18 19:15:45 UTC 2012 

I've always had big concerns and worries.  I'm very worried not 
because I don't want to go explore, I can't wait to do that there 
is so many slaces here to explore we have a zoo within walking 
distance.  Ikm worried because we have a handicaped Labrador who 
can't get around very well due to a tumor in her spinal cord and 
partial paralysis.  She can't control her bowel movements so she 
goes in the house and I'm concerned for my guide dog coming into 
a house where a dog poops and urinates.  I know she can't help 
it, but I'm worried.

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Vanessa Lowery" <vlowery at dhr.state.md.us
To: "the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing 
List" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:27:03 -0400
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?

Yes, getting a dog is not only hard work in class, but is equally 
hard work when at home.  A person deciding to get a guide dog 
needs to get it because he/she wants to, not because family is 
pushing you to do so.  Granted, as you self-reported, you talked 
about getting a guide dog since young childhood, but what is your 
current take on getting a guide dog.  Are you doing so for you or 
to satisfay the family?

No one is discouraging you from getting a guide dog, Sarah, and 
being located in a rural living arrangement is not insurmountable 
wht a guide dog.  But you would ahve to take the initiative to 
find ways to go places where the dog could be worked.  One person 
I know lives wiht her husband in a rural setting, but she is able 
to take walks in the neighborhood wiht her dog.  Additionally, 
the dog gets some work where my friend is employed, and she and 
her husband go into town so the dog can get work in stores.  They 
also visit flea markets where the dog gets work.  In your case, 
you may need to explore if you can do some walking in your 
immediate area.  And you need to explore if there is a 
transportation resource you can use to get you into town.  I have 
concerns that your family thinks that a guide dog is a 
well-trained pet.  If that is their perception, I have some real 
concerns.



Vanessa Lowery, LGSW
Adult and Community Services Division
Adult Services Screening Unit
410-853-3550
VLowery at dhr.state.md.us


 Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> 9/18/2012 2:12 PM
If you are getting the dog for the family, then you should really 
change your mind, I think, and get a pet.  Is there any 
possibility of your moving? Hou said you were in an independenbt 
living program for six months, but now you aren't.  You are 
twenty; the world is your future, but you have to help make it 
happen.  Fear holds us back so we have to just push through it, 
getting the help we need along the way.

CL

On Sep 18, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Sarah wrote:

 I want to just get a pet but sty family all want me to have a 
guide dog because I've been talking about it since I was 7.  But 
now that I'm 20, I just feel too tired and I don't have that get 
up and go like I used to.  I kind of just feel like sleeping all 
day because I live so far away from Magic Mountain.  I've been 
everywhere up in this desert lots of times and we only go 
shopping once a week.

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net
 To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:04:27 -0400
 Subject: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?

 Hi Sarah.
 I wonder why you want a dog, if you feel you have nowhere to go?

 I am old enough to see the glimmer of retirement in my 
future--not soon,
 but not impossibly far off, either.  But I think that even after 
I retire,
 I'll have places to go.  I'll still have the usual trips around 
town--the
 grocery, diner, pharmacy, shopping...though those won't be every 
day.  I
 hope to do a bit of travelling.  And to get out and walk, 
preferably every
 day, just to keep myself fit.  I've had 6 guide dogs now, and 
every one of
 them has done best when they've gotten regular work.  Ben, my 
current dog,
 doesn't require miles and miles a day, and can take one day off 
a week
 with no problem, but he still gets squirrely if I don't work him 
for any
 length of time.
 I think my dogs will still get enough work, once I'm retired, 
but it does
 concern me a bit.  If I felt I really had nowhere to go, or no 
desire to go
 anywhere, I'd just get myself a pet.  But, being somewhat prone 
to cabin
 fever, I don't see that happening any time soon.

 Tracy

 Dang it now I'm worried.  I really have no desire to go 
anywhere.
 I just fel too tired

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
 To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
 Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:51:55 -0500
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class

 No, I don't do that.  I should, but because I am currently not
 going much of anywhere, I've gotten out of the habit.  I kind of
 wish I did, and maybe I'll start.  That's probably one of the
 reasons I won't get any dogs after this one.  I don't think he's
 getting a fair shake.  I hope I don't change my mind.

 CL

 On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Sarah wrote:

 Cool thanks.  How often do you walk your dog? Do
 you walk 3-5 miles every day?
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
 To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
 Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 06:27:39 -0500
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class

 Ah, you'll be fine.  It is always exciting before you go for the
 dog.  I think you are going to have a fine time of it.

 Cindy

 On Sep 17, 2012, at 11:10 PM, Sarah wrote:

 That's exciting! I'm still kind of worried, but I'll do it.

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
 To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
 Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:45:16 -0500
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class

 His name is Fisher.  Let's see.  I think they brought him to my
 room.  We walked around the room a lot.  He sniffed me and we
 cuddled.  At our school, they had us go out on their leisure 
path
 with the harness and an instructor attched to him, too, with the
 leash.  Then later we took them out to relieve and have dinner.
 He mostly tried to keep him close and see what toys he liked,
 though I went slow with this.  Some dogs, when you first get
 them, whine a lot because they hear familiar voices as others 
are
 being given dogs by the same instructor.  Some are restless the
 first night or so when they are with you; I've never had a lot 
of
 trouble with that with any of the dogs.

 CL

 On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Sarah wrote:

 What's his name? What was it like when you first met him?

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
 To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
 Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:20:17 -0500
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class

 I think they can sense  your moods.  I think they definitely
 know the difference between stressed and calm.  I have a lab and
 golden cross.  He is six.

 CL

 On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:17 PM, Sarah wrote:

 that's awesome! I am so excited to have a dog.  Can dogs sense
 how you are feel, can they sense your moods? What kind of dog do
 you have?

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
 To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
 Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:12:22 -0500
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class

 \Hi, Sarah, I am Cindy.  You know, it depends on the dog.  I am
 a firm believer in spending a lot of time in the process of
 bonding with my dog, especially the first few days.  If the
 person who trained you is your trainer, they will look to that
 person for a while, but you will start to see a switch over in a
 few days.  When you take that dog home, I think the bonding
 increases because now it has left all it knows behind except 
you,
 so it trusts you.  You will have work to do to become a solid
 team, but your dog and you will have already begun a strong
 bonding that will only get stronger.  I think the key is a lot 
of
 attention, especially at first and mostly from you, corrections
 when you have to, and lots of praise when the dog does something
 right and well.

 CL


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