[nagdu] Nowhere to go?

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Tue Sep 18 23:14:23 UTC 2012 

Another friendly observation.  Dogs are not!! substitutes for canes and good 
mobility skills!  A lot of folks are under the misconception that a dog will 
autimatically improve mobility and confidence!  I'm here to say, not always! 
I'm a great traveller bbut, guess what Holly and I did today!  We got lost! 
That's right!  We got lost!  We were working a familiar route and 
construction!  I told Holly which way to go and she did!  Exactly opposite 
from where I was supposed to go!  Then, we got caught in the construction! 
Well, she did her job great! I didn't bump into anything!  But, I sure did 
go through an obstacle course!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sarah" <coastergirl92 at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?


> The experience I had at the independent living center was horrible.  I had 
> anxiety attacks every day and didn't want to go anywhere because I have no 
> confidence with a cane.  That's why my family wants me to get a guide dog 
> so bad is because it might help with my anxiety out in public and I don't 
> like having to depend on people to guide me.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:12:55 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?
>
> If you are getting the dog for the family, then you should really change 
> your mind, I think, and get a pet.  Is there any possibility of your 
> moving? Hou said you were in an independenbt living program for six 
> months, but now you aren't.  You are twenty; the world is your future, but 
> you have to help make it happen.  Fear holds us back so we have to just 
> push through it, getting the help we need along the way.
>
> CL
>
> On Sep 18, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Sarah wrote:
>
> I want to just get a pet but sty family all want me to have a guide dog 
> because I've been talking about it since I was 7.  But now that I'm 20, I 
> just feel too tired and I don't have that get up and go like I used to.  I 
> kind of just feel like sleeping all day because I live so far away from 
> Magic Mountain.  I've been everywhere up in this desert lots of times and 
> we only go shopping once a week.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:04:27 -0400
> Subject: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?
>
> Hi Sarah.
> I wonder why you want a dog, if you feel you have nowhere to go?
>
> I am old enough to see the glimmer of retirement in my future--not soon,
> but not impossibly far off, either.  But I think that even after I retire,
> I'll have places to go.  I'll still have the usual trips around town--the
> grocery, diner, pharmacy, shopping...though those won't be every day.  I
> hope to do a bit of travelling.  And to get out and walk, preferably every
> day, just to keep myself fit.  I've had 6 guide dogs now, and every one of
> them has done best when they've gotten regular work.  Ben, my current dog,
> doesn't require miles and miles a day, and can take one day off a week
> with no problem, but he still gets squirrely if I don't work him for any
> length of time.
> I think my dogs will still get enough work, once I'm retired, but it does
> concern me a bit.  If I felt I really had nowhere to go, or no desire to 
> go
> anywhere, I'd just get myself a pet.  But, being somewhat prone to cabin
> fever, I don't see that happening any time soon.
>
> Tracy
>
> Dang it now I'm worried.  I really have no desire to go anywhere.
> I just fel too tired
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:51:55 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class
>
> No, I don't do that.  I should, but because I am currently not
> going much of anywhere, I've gotten out of the habit.  I kind of
> wish I did, and maybe I'll start.  That's probably one of the
> reasons I won't get any dogs after this one.  I don't think he's
> getting a fair shake.  I hope I don't change my mind.
>
> CL
>
> On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Sarah wrote:
>
> Cool thanks.  How often do you walk your dog? Do
> you walk 3-5 miles every day?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 06:27:39 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class
>
> Ah, you'll be fine.  It is always exciting before you go for the
> dog.  I think you are going to have a fine time of it.
>
> Cindy
>
> On Sep 17, 2012, at 11:10 PM, Sarah wrote:
>
> That's exciting! I'm still kind of worried, but I'll do it.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:45:16 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class
>
> His name is Fisher.  Let's see.  I think they brought him to my
> room.  We walked around the room a lot.  He sniffed me and we
> cuddled.  At our school, they had us go out on their leisure path
> with the harness and an instructor attched to him, too, with the
> leash.  Then later we took them out to relieve and have dinner.
> He mostly tried to keep him close and see what toys he liked,
> though I went slow with this.  Some dogs, when you first get
> them, whine a lot because they hear familiar voices as others are
> being given dogs by the same instructor.  Some are restless the
> first night or so when they are with you; I've never had a lot of
> trouble with that with any of the dogs.
>
> CL
>
> On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Sarah wrote:
>
> What's his name? What was it like when you first met him?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:20:17 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class
>
> I think they can sense  your moods.  I think they definitely
> know the difference between stressed and calm.  I have a lab and
> golden cross.  He is six.
>
> CL
>
> On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:17 PM, Sarah wrote:
>
> that's awesome! I am so excited to have a dog.  Can dogs sense
> how you are feel, can they sense your moods? What kind of dog do
> you have?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:12:22 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class
>
> \Hi, Sarah, I am Cindy.  You know, it depends on the dog.  I am
> a firm believer in spending a lot of time in the process of
> bonding with my dog, especially the first few days.  If the
> person who trained you is your trainer, they will look to that
> person for a while, but you will start to see a switch over in a
> few days.  When you take that dog home, I think the bonding
> increases because now it has left all it knows behind except you,
> so it trusts you.  You will have work to do to become a solid
> team, but your dog and you will have already begun a strong
> bonding that will only get stronger.  I think the key is a lot of
> attention, especially at first and mostly from you, corrections
> when you have to, and lots of praise when the dog does something
> right and well.
>
> CL
>
>
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