[nagdu] Nowhere to go?

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Wed Sep 19 00:36:07 UTC 2012 

Hannah, I didn't get Holly until I was 45.  I loved dogs and had always had 
them but didn't want one to lead me around. Until I met Steve Hoyt and he 
said, "POODLE!!".  I still use my other techniques to get around and am sure 
glad I learned them!  I haven't slowed down but specd up!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?


> Sarah,
> I think many people here would agree with me that it might be good to 
> master
> the cane techniques before you get a dog. Dogs can get sick at unexpected
> times and you will need to whip out your cane for those times. Also, you
> might not want to bring your dog everywhere because sometimes it may be
> inconvenient.
> It is a lot of work to train with a dog, but it's more work once you
> graduate because at the guide dog school, you have support and people who
> understand your needs as well as your dogs, but when you're home, it's
> basically all up to you. There's a huge responsibility and you must walk
> your dog often to keep up the training as well as to let them get 
> exercise.
> You've mentioned that the training program made you more afraid and now as 
> a
> result, all you want to do is to stay at home. Perhaps you should weigh 
> the
> pros and cons of what it means to have a dog and to care for someone other
> than just yourself?
> I received my dog in February and there has been a lot of ups and downs, 
> but
> at the end of the day, I'm glad I got a dog. For me, it's easier to have a
> dog on my college campus. UC Davis is huge, and having Princess has really
> made a big difference.
> Please feel free to email me off list if you have any additional 
> questions.
> My email is: hchadwick at ucdavis.edu
> All the best, Hannah
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Sarah
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 11:17 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?
>
> The experience I had at the independent living center was horrible.  I had
> anxiety attacks every day and didn't want to go anywhere because I have no
> confidence with a cane.  That's why my family wants me to get a guide dog 
> so
> bad is because it might help with my anxiety out in public and I don't 
> like
> having to depend on people to guide me.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:12:55 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?
>
> If you are getting the dog for the family, then you should really change
> your mind, I think, and get a pet.  Is there any possibility of your 
> moving?
> Hou said you were in an independenbt living program for six months, but 
> now
> you aren't.  You are twenty; the world is your future, but you have to 
> help
> make it happen.  Fear holds us back so we have to just push through it,
> getting the help we need along the way.
>
> CL
>
> On Sep 18, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Sarah wrote:
>
> I want to just get a pet but sty family all want me to have a guide dog
> because I've been talking about it since I was 7.  But now that I'm 20, I
> just feel too tired and I don't have that get up and go like I used to.  I
> kind of just feel like sleeping all day because I live so far away from
> Magic Mountain.  I've been everywhere up in this desert lots of times and 
> we
> only go shopping once a week.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org  Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:04:27 -0400
> Subject: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?
>
> Hi Sarah.
> I wonder why you want a dog, if you feel you have nowhere to go?
>
> I am old enough to see the glimmer of retirement in my future--not soon,
> but not impossibly far off, either.  But I think that even after I retire,
> I'll have places to go.  I'll still have the usual trips around town--the
> grocery, diner, pharmacy, shopping...though those won't be every day.  I
> hope to do a bit of travelling.  And to get out and walk, preferably every
> day, just to keep myself fit.  I've had 6 guide dogs now, and every one of
> them has done best when they've gotten regular work.  Ben, my current dog,
> doesn't require miles and miles a day, and can take one day off a week 
> with
> no problem, but he still gets squirrely if I don't work him for any 
> length
> of time.
> I think my dogs will still get enough work, once I'm retired, but it does
> concern me a bit.  If I felt I really had nowhere to go, or no desire to 
> go
> anywhere, I'd just get myself a pet.  But, being somewhat prone to cabin
> fever, I don't see that happening any time soon.
>
> Tracy
>
> Dang it now I'm worried.  I really have no desire to go anywhere.
> I just fel too tired
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog  Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org  Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:51:55 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class
>
> No, I don't do that.  I should, but because I am currently not  going much
> of anywhere, I've gotten out of the habit.  I kind of  wish I did, and 
> maybe
> I'll start.  That's probably one of the  reasons I won't get any dogs 
> after
> this one.  I don't think he's  getting a fair shake.  I hope I don't 
> change
> my mind.
>
> CL
>
> On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Sarah wrote:
>
> Cool thanks.  How often do you walk your dog? Do  you walk 3-5 miles every
> day?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog  Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org  Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 06:27:39 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class
>
> Ah, you'll be fine.  It is always exciting before you go for the  dog.  I
> think you are going to have a fine time of it.
>
> Cindy
>
> On Sep 17, 2012, at 11:10 PM, Sarah wrote:
>
> That's exciting! I'm still kind of worried, but I'll do it.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog  Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org  Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:45:16 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class
>
> His name is Fisher.  Let's see.  I think they brought him to my  room.  We
> walked around the room a lot.  He sniffed me and we  cuddled.  At our
> school, they had us go out on their leisure path  with the harness and an
> instructor attched to him, too, with the  leash.  Then later we took them
> out to relieve and have dinner.
> He mostly tried to keep him close and see what toys he liked,  though I
> went slow with this.  Some dogs, when you first get  them, whine a lot
> because they hear familiar voices as others are  being given dogs by the
> same instructor.  Some are restless the  first night or so when they are
> with you; I've never had a lot of  trouble with that with any of the dogs.
>
> CL
>
> On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Sarah wrote:
>
> What's his name? What was it like when you first met him?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog  Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org  Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:20:17 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class
>
> I think they can sense  your moods.  I think they definitely  know the
> difference between stressed and calm.  I have a lab and  golden cross.  He
> is six.
>
> CL
>
> On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:17 PM, Sarah wrote:
>
> that's awesome! I am so excited to have a dog.  Can dogs sense  how you 
> are
> feel, can they sense your moods? What kind of dog do  you have?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog  Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org  Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:12:22 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class
>
> \Hi, Sarah, I am Cindy.  You know, it depends on the dog.  I am  a firm
> believer in spending a lot of time in the process of  bonding with my dog,
> especially the first few days.  If the  person who trained you is your
> trainer, they will look to that  person for a while, but you will start to
> see a switch over in a  few days.  When you take that dog home, I think 
> the
> bonding  increases because now it has left all it knows behind except you,
> so it trusts you.  You will have work to do to become a solid  team, but
> your dog and you will have already begun a strong  bonding that will only
> get stronger.  I think the key is a lot of  attention, especially at first
> and mostly from you, corrections  when you have to, and lots of praise 
> when
> the dog does something  right and well.
>
> CL
>
>
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