[nagdu] Nowhere to go?

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Wed Sep 19 00:38:53 UTC 2012 

But, the dogs can't go on the coasters so you would have to leave them home 
or have a trusted friend hold the dog for you!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sarah" <coastergirl92 at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?


> Not sure what I would study in college.  I didn't learn anything
> in high school all I did was sit at my desk because they told me
> to just put my head on my desk because I had no braille work.  So
> I really have no education besides what I know about roller
> coasters and dogs.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vanessa Lowery" <vlowery at dhr.state.md.us
> To: "the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing
> List" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:20:20 -0400
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?
>
> Sarah, life does nto revolve around amusement parks.  What are
> your goals in life?  Job prospects, college?  Something other
> than amusement parks.
>
>
>
> Vanessa Lowery, LGSW
> Adult and Community Services Division
> Adult Services Screening Unit
> 410-853-3550
> VLowery at dhr.state.md.us
>
>
> Sarah <coastergirl92 at gmail.com> 9/18/2012 3:57 PM
> i'm never doing it again.  I'd rather do a solo skydive than ever
> considering any more independent training centers.  Besides I
> hate being away from home and at training centers you don't get
> to have any fun there's no amusement park trips.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:53:34 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?
>
> I'm sorry you had such a horrible experience.  Please know that
> not all
> training centers are like that.  If you want to give it another
> try,
> there are lots of people who can assist you.  I'm sure people on
> this
> list would be happy to share their experiences with residential
> training.  It's not going to work though, if you aren't ready or
> wanting
> to take that step yet.  When you are ready all you have to do is
> ask and
> there will be support for you.
>
> Julie
> On 9/18/2012 1:22 PM, Sarah wrote:
> i just came home from a six-month hellish experience at an
> independent
> living program.  I got mobility training but still have no
> confidence
> when traveling with a cane.  I was down in Los Angeles for 6
> months.
> I thought it would make me want to be independent but all it did
> was
> make me more afraid.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:16:56 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?
>
> Sarah,
>
> Might I suggest going away to a residential program to learn
> some
> blindness skills?   It would give you the opportunity to live on
> your
> own, gain life skills, be independent from your family, give you
> lots of
> options for your future and provide an opportunity to have new
> experiences.  There is always time to get a dog later, or some
> residential programs will work the dog in.
>
> A guide dog can do a lot of really great things, but it will
> never be
> able to balance your checkbook, cook dinner, stand up for your
> rights,
> match your clothes or punch the time clock for you.
>
> All my best to you,
> Julie
>
>
> On 9/18/2012 1:08 PM, Sarah wrote:
> I want to just get a pet but sty family all want me to have a
> guide
> dog because I've been talking about it since I was 7.  But now
> that
> I'm 20, I just feel too tired and I don't have that get up and
> go like
> I used to.  I kind of just feel like sleeping all day because I
> live
> so far away from Magic Mountain.  I've been everywhere up in
> this
> desert lots of times and we only go shopping once a week.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:04:27 -0400
> Subject: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?
>
> Hi Sarah.
> I wonder why you want a dog, if you feel you have nowhere to go?
>
> I am old enough to see the glimmer of retirement in my
> future--not soon,
> but not impossibly far off, either.  But I think that even after
> I
> retire,
> I'll have places to go.  I'll still have the usual trips around
> town--the
> grocery, diner, pharmacy, shopping...though those won't be every
> day.  I
> hope to do a bit of travelling.  And to get out and walk,
> preferably
> every
> day, just to keep myself fit.  I've had 6 guide dogs now, and
> every
> one of
> them has done best when they've gotten regular work.  Ben, my
> current
> dog,
> doesn't require miles and miles a day, and can take one day off
> a week
> with no problem, but he still gets squirrely if I don't work him
> for any
> length of time.
> I think my dogs will still get enough work, once I'm retired,
> but it does
> concern me a bit.  If I felt I really had nowhere to go, or no
> desire
> to go
> anywhere, I'd just get myself a pet.  But, being somewhat prone
> to cabin
> fever, I don't see that happening any time soon.
>
> Tracy
>
> Dang it now I'm worried.  I really have no desire to go
> anywhere.
> I just fel too tired
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:51:55 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class
>
> No, I don't do that.  I should, but because I am currently not
> going much of anywhere, I've gotten out of the habit.  I kind of
> wish I did, and maybe I'll start.  That's probably one of the
> reasons I won't get any dogs after this one.  I don't think he's
> getting a fair shake.  I hope I don't change my mind.
>
> CL
>
> On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Sarah wrote:
>
>  Cool thanks.  How often do you walk your dog? Do
>  you walk 3-5 miles every day?
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
>  To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>  Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 06:27:39 -0500
>  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class
>
>  Ah, you'll be fine.  It is always exciting before you go for
> the
> dog.  I think you are going to have a fine time of it.
>
>  Cindy
>
>  On Sep 17, 2012, at 11:10 PM, Sarah wrote:
>
>  That's exciting! I'm still kind of worried, but I'll do it.
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
>  To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>  Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:45:16 -0500
>  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class
>
>  His name is Fisher.  Let's see.  I think they brought him to my
> room.  We walked around the room a lot.  He sniffed me and we
> cuddled.  At our school, they had us go out on their leisure
> path
> with the harness and an instructor attched to him, too, with the
> leash.  Then later we took them out to relieve and have dinner.
> He mostly tried to keep him close and see what toys he liked,
> though I went slow with this.  Some dogs, when you first get
> them, whine a lot because they hear familiar voices as others
> are
> being given dogs by the same instructor.  Some are restless the
> first night or so when they are with you; I've never had a lot
> of
> trouble with that with any of the dogs.
>
>  CL
>
>  On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Sarah wrote:
>
>  What's his name? What was it like when you first met him?
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
>  To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>  Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:20:17 -0500
>  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class
>
>  I think they can sense  your moods.  I think they definitely
> know the difference between stressed and calm.  I have a lab and
> golden cross.  He is six.
>
>  CL
>
>  On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:17 PM, Sarah wrote:
>
>  that's awesome! I am so excited to have a dog.  Can dogs sense
> how you are feel, can they sense your moods? What kind of dog do
> you have?
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
>  To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>  Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:12:22 -0500
>  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class
>
>  \Hi, Sarah, I am Cindy.  You know, it depends on the dog.  I am
> a firm believer in spending a lot of time in the process of
> bonding with my dog, especially the first few days.  If the
> person who trained you is your trainer, they will look to that
> person for a while, but you will start to see a switch over in a
> few days.  When you take that dog home, I think the bonding
> increases because now it has left all it knows behind except
> you,
> so it trusts you.  You will have work to do to become a solid
> team, but your dog and you will have already begun a strong
> bonding that will only get stronger.  I think the key is a lot
> of
> attention, especially at first and mostly from you, corrections
> when you have to, and lots of praise when the dog does something
> right and well.
>
>  CL
>
>
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