[nagdu] I was not excepted

Chantel Cuddemi jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
Mon Apr 1 03:47:40 UTC 2013


When I applied to Pilot, it took me four months to be accepted. 

Hth, 

Chantel and Motley. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 10:09 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] I was not excepted

Hi,
Does it need the pilot grads know about how long it takes for pilot to get
back to you after your stuff is received?

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Hope you all had a great Easter. And a
great new week.
Jenny
On Mar 30, 2013, at 4:34 PM, rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> hi jenny, you will hear from pilot dogs. vary  soon.
> it only took me a ffew months.
> i got in.
> and i am happy with the school.
> 
> 
> On Mar 30, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Jenny Keller wrote:
> 
>> Yes it does give you a sense of satisfaction. My application of medical
forms were sent yesterday. 
>> I can't wait till they call me with a class  date and hope there's no
snafus. I don't know how long it takes to get an answer from the school. But
I hope it'll be soon. Keep your fingers crossed to keep your prayers coming.
Thanks everybody
>> Jenny
>> On Mar 28, 2013, at 4:51 PM, "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey, I like that - the guy gets fired or laid off! LOL!  Doesn't it give
you a sense of vidication when we see someone who has done us wrong get
their comeuppance!  Love it!
>>> 
>>> Hope things are progressing okay with Pilot.
>>> 
>>> Lyn and Landon
>>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is
like asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Keller" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:01 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I was not excepted
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Well I find it interesting that the person that signed my form with all
the excuses as to why couldn't get a dog. Was laid off today or maybe even
fired. I guess what goes around comes around.
>>>> Jenny
>>>> On Mar 27, 2013, at 10:29 AM, rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> hi i apply  there.. and i didn't get in
>>>>> On Mar 19, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Debbie Cole wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I was a GDB denial as well
>>>>>> *steps down
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Debbie & Leone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 3/19/13, Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Oh Jenny,
>>>>>>> This is VERY (explitive I won't say on the list) up!  The guy who
was on the
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> committee that accepts or denies applicants is the one you do an
appeal
>>>>>>> with???!  Ummm, oyvey! (as Lyn rolls his eyes and looks skyward!)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> With GDB's denials of myself and some of my friends, why am I
surprised?  I
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> guess they might have changes over the years.  Guess not.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'll shut up now before I piss anyone off!  Yeah, just apply
elsewhere and
>>>>>>> move on.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>>>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is
like
>>>>>>> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Jenny Keller" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:34 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I was not excepted
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Tracy,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I spoke to gentleman who handles the appeals process.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> He was the one who went over and signed my denial.  also, when I
explained
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> my situation and addressed all his concerns, it didn't seem good
enough.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> He told me that I could email him with the outline of his concerns,
but
>>>>>>>> his tone of voice basically told me it would not be met well.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I've applied to another school because of that.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jenny
>>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2013, at 7:37 AM, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Jenny.
>>>>>>>>> The way I see it, you don't have much to lose by appealing the
decision
>>>>>>>>> at GDB.  It seems like all you would have to do is send an email
>>>>>>>>> outlining your arguments to GDB, as you did to this list.  A
follow-up
>>>>>>>>> phone call might also be a good thing.  I figure you've already
gone
>>>>>>>>> through all the paperwork and all, so what's another email or two?
>>>>>>>>> Unless the rejection has made you not want any more to do with
GDB. But,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> as Natasha says, sometimes a field rep gets a weird idea or two,
and the
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> guys back at home base may feel quite differently. I've certainly
met my
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> share of odd reps, both at GDB and TSE.
>>>>>>>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>>>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natasha Baebler"
>>>>>>>>> <guidingpaws at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
Users"
>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 3:36 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I was not excepted
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> One school in particular uses seasoned guides that aren't quite
"fit"
>>>>>>>>>> for a blind handler for one reason or another as ambassador dogs.
The
>>>>>>>>>> field rep I know who has one has a dog who has chronic uti's. ok
worker
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> (I have worked this dog) but I so strongly feel this instructor
has come
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> to rely on this average dog in some ways I'm not entirely
comfortable
>>>>>>>>>> with. Like I said, this dog is middle of the average road. The
initial
>>>>>>>>>> purpose of ambassador or dogs was to give first time handlers
assistance
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> in identifying what they want in a dog or if working a dog is
right for
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> them. It's morphed into something else with this instructor.
>>>>>>>>>> I actually think highly of this instructor for their vast dog
knowledge.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Personality and judgment has gotten a little rudder over the time
I've
>>>>>>>>>> known them. Just very different than a lot of the newer on campus
>>>>>>>>>> instructors these days.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Natasha
>>>>>>>>>> guidingpaws at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 16, 2013, at 10:48 PM, Julie McGinnity
<kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jenny,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> So sorry to hear about this.  I can't imagine them telling you
that if
>>>>>>>>>>> you can't walk fast, you wouldn't make it.  I believe you,
but...
>>>>>>>>>>> Wow.  I am only slightly taller than you are, so I know that
those of
>>>>>>>>>>> us who are short can only walk so fast.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I know some schools make a bigger deal out of how much you
walk,
>>>>>>>>>>> but I would say that as long as the dog is worked enough, you
>>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't have a problem.  What about the people who are older
or have
>>>>>>>>>>> medical conditions that prevent them from leaving the house
every day?
>>>>>>>>>>> I know they aren't always denied dogs.  Also, when I got my dog,
the
>>>>>>>>>>> trainers were well aware that I was in high school and wouldn't
do a
>>>>>>>>>>> lot of straight walking.  Like you, I did a lot of walking
>>>>>>>>>>> speratically throughout the day.  I was never told that was a
problem.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Now I have a question from others on the list.  Is it common
practice
>>>>>>>>>>> to bring a dog for home interviews?  I was not given a random
dog to
>>>>>>>>>>> work with at my home interview with Guiding Eyes 6 years ago.
What is
>>>>>>>>>>> their rationale for doing this?  Why does a simple Juno Walk not
>>>>>>>>>>> suffice?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/16/13, rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> i went to pilot dogs. and i got in just fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 15, 2013, at 3:29 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was told by a guide dog school don't worry about applying
because
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>> get denied. RJ
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "rhonda cruz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
Users"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 6:25 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I was not excepted
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hi i am so sorry. hugs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 14, 2013, at 9:30 PM, Sheila Leigland wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, I'm sorry you weren't accepted. The first school I
applied to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me down also for rediculous reasons so I applied at a
different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> school.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheila Leigland
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Julie McG
>>>>>>>>>>> National Association of Guide dog Users board member,  National
>>>>>>>>>>> Federation of the Blind performing arts division secretary,
>>>>>>>>>>> Missouri Association of Guide dog Users President,
>>>>>>>>>>> and Guiding Eyes for the Blind graduate 2008
>>>>>>>>>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
>>>>>>>>>>> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
>>>>>>>>>>> life."
>>>>>>>>>>> John 3:16
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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