[nagdu] I was not excepted

Jenny Keller jlperdue3 at gmail.com
Mon Apr 1 09:32:33 UTC 2013 

that's not a long time.

Hope it goes as smootly as your process /smile/

Thans for the nfo.

Jenny
On Mar 31, 2013, at 10:47 PM, "Chantel Cuddemi" <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com> wrote:

> When I applied to Pilot, it took me four months to be accepted. 
> 
> Hth, 
> 
> Chantel and Motley. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 10:09 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I was not excepted
> 
> Hi,
> Does it need the pilot grads know about how long it takes for pilot to get
> back to you after your stuff is received?
> 
> Any thoughts would be appreciated. Hope you all had a great Easter. And a
> great new week.
> Jenny
> On Mar 30, 2013, at 4:34 PM, rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> hi jenny, you will hear from pilot dogs. vary  soon.
>> it only took me a ffew months.
>> i got in.
>> and i am happy with the school.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 30, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Jenny Keller wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes it does give you a sense of satisfaction. My application of medical
> forms were sent yesterday. 
>>> I can't wait till they call me with a class  date and hope there's no
> snafus. I don't know how long it takes to get an answer from the school. But
> I hope it'll be soon. Keep your fingers crossed to keep your prayers coming.
> Thanks everybody
>>> Jenny
>>> On Mar 28, 2013, at 4:51 PM, "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hey, I like that - the guy gets fired or laid off! LOL!  Doesn't it give
> you a sense of vidication when we see someone who has done us wrong get
> their comeuppance!  Love it!
>>>> 
>>>> Hope things are progressing okay with Pilot.
>>>> 
>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is
> like asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Keller" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:01 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I was not excepted
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Well I find it interesting that the person that signed my form with all
> the excuses as to why couldn't get a dog. Was laid off today or maybe even
> fired. I guess what goes around comes around.
>>>>> Jenny
>>>>> On Mar 27, 2013, at 10:29 AM, rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> hi i apply  there.. and i didn't get in
>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Debbie Cole wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I was a GDB denial as well
>>>>>>> *steps down
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Debbie & Leone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 3/19/13, Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Oh Jenny,
>>>>>>>> This is VERY (explitive I won't say on the list) up!  The guy who
> was on the
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> committee that accepts or denies applicants is the one you do an
> appeal
>>>>>>>> with???!  Ummm, oyvey! (as Lyn rolls his eyes and looks skyward!)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> With GDB's denials of myself and some of my friends, why am I
> surprised?  I
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> guess they might have changes over the years.  Guess not.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'll shut up now before I piss anyone off!  Yeah, just apply
> elsewhere and
>>>>>>>> move on.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>>>>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is
> like
>>>>>>>> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Jenny Keller" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:34 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I was not excepted
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Tracy,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I spoke to gentleman who handles the appeals process.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> He was the one who went over and signed my denial.  also, when I
> explained
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> my situation and addressed all his concerns, it didn't seem good
> enough.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> He told me that I could email him with the outline of his concerns,
> but
>>>>>>>>> his tone of voice basically told me it would not be met well.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I've applied to another school because of that.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Jenny
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2013, at 7:37 AM, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jenny.
>>>>>>>>>> The way I see it, you don't have much to lose by appealing the
> decision
>>>>>>>>>> at GDB.  It seems like all you would have to do is send an email
>>>>>>>>>> outlining your arguments to GDB, as you did to this list.  A
> follow-up
>>>>>>>>>> phone call might also be a good thing.  I figure you've already
> gone
>>>>>>>>>> through all the paperwork and all, so what's another email or two?
>>>>>>>>>> Unless the rejection has made you not want any more to do with
> GDB. But,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> as Natasha says, sometimes a field rep gets a weird idea or two,
> and the
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> guys back at home base may feel quite differently. I've certainly
> met my
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> share of odd reps, both at GDB and TSE.
>>>>>>>>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>>>>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natasha Baebler"
>>>>>>>>>> <guidingpaws at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 3:36 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I was not excepted
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> One school in particular uses seasoned guides that aren't quite
> "fit"
>>>>>>>>>>> for a blind handler for one reason or another as ambassador dogs.
> The
>>>>>>>>>>> field rep I know who has one has a dog who has chronic uti's. ok
> worker
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> (I have worked this dog) but I so strongly feel this instructor
> has come
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> to rely on this average dog in some ways I'm not entirely
> comfortable
>>>>>>>>>>> with. Like I said, this dog is middle of the average road. The
> initial
>>>>>>>>>>> purpose of ambassador or dogs was to give first time handlers
> assistance
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> in identifying what they want in a dog or if working a dog is
> right for
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> them. It's morphed into something else with this instructor.
>>>>>>>>>>> I actually think highly of this instructor for their vast dog
> knowledge.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Personality and judgment has gotten a little rudder over the time
> I've
>>>>>>>>>>> known them. Just very different than a lot of the newer on campus
>>>>>>>>>>> instructors these days.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Natasha
>>>>>>>>>>> guidingpaws at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 16, 2013, at 10:48 PM, Julie McGinnity
> <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jenny,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> So sorry to hear about this.  I can't imagine them telling you
> that if
>>>>>>>>>>>> you can't walk fast, you wouldn't make it.  I believe you,
> but...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow.  I am only slightly taller than you are, so I know that
> those of
>>>>>>>>>>>> us who are short can only walk so fast.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I know some schools make a bigger deal out of how much you
> walk,
>>>>>>>>>>>> but I would say that as long as the dog is worked enough, you
>>>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't have a problem.  What about the people who are older
> or have
>>>>>>>>>>>> medical conditions that prevent them from leaving the house
> every day?
>>>>>>>>>>>> I know they aren't always denied dogs.  Also, when I got my dog,
> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> trainers were well aware that I was in high school and wouldn't
> do a
>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of straight walking.  Like you, I did a lot of walking
>>>>>>>>>>>> speratically throughout the day.  I was never told that was a
> problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I have a question from others on the list.  Is it common
> practice
>>>>>>>>>>>> to bring a dog for home interviews?  I was not given a random
> dog to
>>>>>>>>>>>> work with at my home interview with Guiding Eyes 6 years ago.
> What is
>>>>>>>>>>>> their rationale for doing this?  Why does a simple Juno Walk not
>>>>>>>>>>>> suffice?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/16/13, rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> i went to pilot dogs. and i got in just fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 15, 2013, at 3:29 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was told by a guide dog school don't worry about applying
> because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get denied. RJ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "rhonda cruz"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 6:25 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I was not excepted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hi i am so sorry. hugs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 14, 2013, at 9:30 PM, Sheila Leigland wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, I'm sorry you weren't accepted. The first school I
> applied to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me down also for rediculous reasons so I applied at a
> different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> school.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheila Leigland
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Julie McG
>>>>>>>>>>>> National Association of Guide dog Users board member,  National
>>>>>>>>>>>> Federation of the Blind performing arts division secretary,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Missouri Association of Guide dog Users President,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and Guiding Eyes for the Blind graduate 2008
>>>>>>>>>>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
>>>>>>>>>>>> life."
>>>>>>>>>>>> John 3:16
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