[nagdu] Veterinary assistance

Mon Apr 15 05:19:26 UTC 2013

Are you taking Landon to the concert? Just wondering how that works. Eve

On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net> wrote:
> Hi Eve,
> GDB is Guide Dogs for the Blind in San Rafael CA and Boring, OR - they are
> the only U.S. school with two campuses.  Guiding Eyes in Yorktown Heights,
> NY also has some assistance for their graduates.  I think they help with vet
> bills and they supply the flea preventative.  Seeing Eye does not.  TSE
> gives their graduates a six-month supply of the flea preventitive and that's
> it.  This is given when you are first going home with a new dog.
>
> Actually, I thought the discussion on the philosophy was good and I didn't
> see any bashing or dissing others opinion.  But, I think everyone had his or
> her say on this topic and it was good.
>
> You take care and have a good day.  My sister and I are taking some friends
> to a concert today and I'm looking forward to it!
>
>
> Lyn and Landon
> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like
> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eve Sanchez" <celticyaya at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 8:28 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Veterinary assistance
>
>
>> Just to let youall know, my above post was actually sent about 4 posts
>> ago. I would not have added it here and do agree that this line has
>> gotten out of hand. I was just curious as to which schools provide
>> assistance and have so far heard repeatedly that GDB (who ever that
>> is)does and know that Pilot does and maybe Seeing Eye. If there is no
>> more information, I agree. I think the philosophical discussions, like
>> this has turned into, just cause hard feelings by those who disagree
>> and I really want us all to get along so that we could learn from each
>> other. Let's change the subject now. My dog's poop problem has gotten
>> much better. Thank you, Eve
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Eve Sanchez <celticyaya at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> and who knows what the long term abilities are? I was set for life
>>> with a professional license and a high paying career and then boom, I
>>> had medical issues that ended my work career. No one knows what life
>>> is going to deal unless you spend every spare moment with the tarot
>>> deck and scrying mirror, and even that is up for change due to
>>> circumstances and choice.  Just saying. Eve
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I know a graduate of GDB whose dog had severe allergies that required
>>>> shots
>>>> every two weeks.  GDB did pay this expense.  In favor of the vet
>>>> stipend,
>>>> having this enabled the friend to keep working her dog and she had the
>>>> dog
>>>> for many years.  Me having a dog from another school, if faced with this
>>>> same issue, i would have to retire the dog and get a new one because i
>>>> could
>>>> no way in hell pay the cost of allergy shots and the vet dermitologist.
>>>> Having a dog that is high maintainance and cost is impossible when the
>>>> school does not help with the expense and you don't have alot of money
>>>> but
>>>> have enouogh for regular care.  Fortunately, I have not had to deal with
>>>> this issue - yet.  Landon does get some skin itchies during the summer
>>>> but
>>>> we can deal with that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is
>>>> like
>>>> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Juanita Herrera"
>>>> <juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 12:44 PM
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Veterinary assistance
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Margo, GDB offers veterinary assistance to all their graduates if they
>>>>> request it. Tracy, as far as I know they offer $250 for a regular
>>>>> health
>>>>> check And to pay for flea preventative and heartworm preventative. Now,
>>>>> if
>>>>> any emergencies were to occur they're usually willing to pay for that
>>>>> as
>>>>> well.
>>>>> Juanita Herrera
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 12, 2013, at 11:26 AM, "Margo and Arrow"
>>>>> <margo.downey at verizon.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, Seeing eye has always granted ownership.  Even though we own our
>>>>>> dogs
>>>>>> when we leave the school as it's always been, Seeing Eye used to pay
>>>>>> major
>>>>>> expenses the first year and then you could get a loan if need be after
>>>>>> that.
>>>>>> Now, I think they give a stipend either just the first year or every
>>>>>> year
>>>>>> and I think they may still have the loan program.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GDB I believe used to say that people who owned their dogs wouldn't
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> help
>>>>>> from them--someone correct me if I'm wrong.  Anyway, they give some
>>>>>> sort
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> vet assistance now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Margo and Arrow
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steven
>>>>>> Johnson
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 1:10 PM
>>>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Veterinary assistance
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eve,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Veterinary assistance is an interesting subject as I wonder how many
>>>>>> feel
>>>>>> that if one is not able to take care of a dog, then why even bother
>>>>>> getting
>>>>>> one?  Kind of a like a car, a home, or any other type of property.  In
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> bias opinion, it is the responsibility of the individual, not the
>>>>>> training
>>>>>> program to care for the dog.  If a training program grants ownership
>>>>>> upon
>>>>>> graduation, then by all means, it is that handlers responsibility, and
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> should be a term in the final ownership contract.  If the training
>>>>>> program
>>>>>> does not provide ownership until after 1, 2 or however many years,
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> yes,
>>>>>> subsidizing that cost may indeed be a part of the training programs
>>>>>> responsibility with the caveat that after ownership is granted, it
>>>>>> becomes
>>>>>> their baby to take care of and care for.  I would be interested in
>>>>>> hearing
>>>>>> what others have to say, as any of us who have a guide realize that
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> are costs involved, and sometimes, significant costs especially if
>>>>>> something
>>>>>> catastrophic or emergent occurs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eve Sanchez
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 10:51 AM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] A cane user interested in a dog guide
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just curious. Reading all the posts, there is a lot of mention of
>>>>>> veternarian assistance. I am wondering if all the schools provide
>>>>>> assitance
>>>>>> of some type. I heard specifically that GDA does and I know that Pilot
>>>>>> does.
>>>>>> What of the others? As I said, just curious. Eve
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Eve Sanchez <celticyaya at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh I knew I would get it for that. It's just a personal prejudice I
>>>>>>> guess. I wont own one. Never have. Well, I actualy have owned two
>>>>>>> dogs
>>>>>>> that were each one quarter lab, but I didnt admit it often. Cant
>>>>>>> really say as to why. Just experiences I have had I guess and dont
>>>>>>> bother trying to change my mind. No one can. I have a golden
>>>>>>> retriever
>>>>>>> right now. My last dog was a german shepherd. I know that not all
>>>>>>> dogs
>>>>>>> in a breed are alike, but I cant get over my prejudice I guess. I do
>>>>>>> know that for some reason I could tolerate yellows much better than
>>>>>>> blacks so I am wondering if it might be a childhood thing.  Never
>>>>>>> really thought about chocolates one way or another.  Well, sorry, but
>>>>>>> that's how I feel. ;X Eve    Oh and I know it is not black dogs in
>>>>>>> particular that I do not like. We had a black pitbull once that was a
>>>>>>> sweetheart. Her name was Loca and she thought she was a chihuahua.
>>>>>>> Again, sorry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Eve,
>>>>>>>> What kind of dog do you have?  What do you not like about Labs? I
>>>>>>>> like to hear why people like certain breeds or why they dislike
>>>>>>>> certain breeds. Many schools are using Lab/Golden crosses now.
>>>>>>>> Landon is one and he matches my red hair - and he has more grey than
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> have! LOL!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>>>>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is
>>>>>>>> like asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eve Sanchez"
>>>>>>>> <celticyaya at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 2:53 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] A cane user interested in a dog guide
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I myself would not worry about the location unless you want your
>>>>>>>>> training to double as a vacation. haha  I believe all schools will
>>>>>>>>> take you no matter where you are with maybe a couple of exceptions
>>>>>>>>> like one in NY and one in Texas. I myself chose based on multiple
>>>>>>>>> things. The breeds available, the amount and type of training
>>>>>>>>> avalable and yes, assitance and support afterwards. Ideally I would
>>>>>>>>> have gone to San Rafael as I am from Northern Cal originally and
>>>>>>>>> still have family right there, but I did not under any cercumstance
>>>>>>>>> want a labrador (no offense people). The school I chose have a
>>>>>>>>> variety of breeds, yes including poodles for the allergic. They
>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>> have Dobermans, shepherds, boxers, labs, goldens, and vizlas. I
>>>>>>>>> probably spelled that last one wrong. Once in a while they have
>>>>>>>>> crosses like labradoodles. Most are bred for the program and some
>>>>>>>>> are donations by breeders they work with. All are screened for
>>>>>>>>> suitability. The training process is there at the facility as I
>>>>>>>>> would have been very uncomfortable doing it at my home. Just me,
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> as I was also in process of moving it made sense. Look at all the
>>>>>>>>> schools online, call and talk to their staff, and make your own
>>>>>>>>> decision. I could tell you that my school is best, but it may not
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> best for you. Either way, be prepared, there will be people found
>>>>>>>>> who could tell you what is wrong with each school. Again, judge for
>>>>>>>>> yourself. I am also thinking you are not even sure at this point if
>>>>>>>>> a dog is right for you. For this I will tell you the same thing.
>>>>>>>>> When I struggled with this, I had some very opinionated people tell
>>>>>>>>> me why I should not get a dog. I also had sympathetic wusses tell
>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>> it would be wonderful for me to be taken care of. What finally
>>>>>>>>> helped me decide was an incident in which I was left alone in a
>>>>>>>>> park
>>>>>>>>> and had no idea where I was. I realized at that moment that, though
>>>>>>>>> a cane helps me be safe, it does not tell me where to go. A cane is
>>>>>>>>> also crappy companionship when on your own. When I am in an unknown
>>>>>>>>> area with my dog, though some people say this is not true, I could
>>>>>>>>> tell my dog to find the sidewalk or whatever. She will and then
>>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>>> I have a landmark, I have my bearings and can go on from there.
>>>>>>>>> Yes,
>>>>>>>>> a cane is safe, but a dog gets you places AND is safe. You decide
>>>>>>>>> though and talk all that we say with what you think it is worth.
>>>>>>>>> Blessed Be. Eve
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Chantel Cuddemi
>>>>>>>>> <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I chose Pilot Dogs because they trained standard poodles, the
>>>>>>>>>> breed
>>>>>>>>>> I chose to train with, and I also chose Pilot because they're
>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>> here in Ohio.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Good luck with whatever school you choose.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Chantel and Motley.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>>> Anjelina
>>>>>>>>>> Cruz
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:31 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] A cane user interested in a dog guide
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Good morning all,
>>>>>>>>>> I am currently a cane user who recently has been interested in
>>>>>>>>>> choosing a dog guide school. How did you choose your school?
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for any feedback.
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Anjelina
>>>>>>>>>>
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