[nagdu] Veterinary assistance
Lyn Gwizdak
linda.gwizdak at cox.net
Tue Apr 16 22:53:25 UTC 2013
Yes, I took Landon to the concert and my friend took her dog as wwell. They
did very well and not a peep from either of them! It was our Gay Men's
Chorus doing Elton John music and it was the next best thing to going to an
actual Elton John concert - cheaper! The Chorus is excellent and I really
enjoy them.
When I was pruchasing the tickets on the Gay Men's Chorus website, they had
a seating chart of the North Park Theatre and I selected seats where I
thought would provide the most room for the dogs and they worked out well
for us. As that theatre is in my neighbothood, I sometimes go to it without
my dog. there's isn't much room between the rows of seats. I sit way up
front when there is free seating there such as for the LGBT film festival or
a community meeting held there. So, I either bring Landon or the long,
white skinny dog - LOL!
I brought Landon to the concert because we were going out to eat afterwards
and I didn't want to make him stay home alone too long. I don't go to
obnoxiously loud concerts either. He's gone with me to the San diego Summer
Pops and the holiday Pops concert around Christmas time and he does very
well. He does an excellent job of working me through crowds in theatres as
well as at street fairs. He's a good dog!
Take care,
Lyn and Landon
"Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like
asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eve Sanchez" <celticyaya at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Veterinary assistance
> Are you taking Landon to the concert? Just wondering how that works. Eve
>
> On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
> wrote:
>> Hi Eve,
>> GDB is Guide Dogs for the Blind in San Rafael CA and Boring, OR - they
>> are
>> the only U.S. school with two campuses. Guiding Eyes in Yorktown
>> Heights,
>> NY also has some assistance for their graduates. I think they help with
>> vet
>> bills and they supply the flea preventative. Seeing Eye does not. TSE
>> gives their graduates a six-month supply of the flea preventitive and
>> that's
>> it. This is given when you are first going home with a new dog.
>>
>> Actually, I thought the discussion on the philosophy was good and I
>> didn't
>> see any bashing or dissing others opinion. But, I think everyone had his
>> or
>> her say on this topic and it was good.
>>
>> You take care and have a good day. My sister and I are taking some
>> friends
>> to a concert today and I'm looking forward to it!
>>
>>
>> Lyn and Landon
>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like
>> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eve Sanchez" <celticyaya at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 8:28 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Veterinary assistance
>>
>>
>>> Just to let youall know, my above post was actually sent about 4 posts
>>> ago. I would not have added it here and do agree that this line has
>>> gotten out of hand. I was just curious as to which schools provide
>>> assistance and have so far heard repeatedly that GDB (who ever that
>>> is)does and know that Pilot does and maybe Seeing Eye. If there is no
>>> more information, I agree. I think the philosophical discussions, like
>>> this has turned into, just cause hard feelings by those who disagree
>>> and I really want us all to get along so that we could learn from each
>>> other. Let's change the subject now. My dog's poop problem has gotten
>>> much better. Thank you, Eve
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Eve Sanchez <celticyaya at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> and who knows what the long term abilities are? I was set for life
>>>> with a professional license and a high paying career and then boom, I
>>>> had medical issues that ended my work career. No one knows what life
>>>> is going to deal unless you spend every spare moment with the tarot
>>>> deck and scrying mirror, and even that is up for change due to
>>>> circumstances and choice. Just saying. Eve
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I know a graduate of GDB whose dog had severe allergies that required
>>>>> shots
>>>>> every two weeks. GDB did pay this expense. In favor of the vet
>>>>> stipend,
>>>>> having this enabled the friend to keep working her dog and she had the
>>>>> dog
>>>>> for many years. Me having a dog from another school, if faced with
>>>>> this
>>>>> same issue, i would have to retire the dog and get a new one because i
>>>>> could
>>>>> no way in hell pay the cost of allergy shots and the vet
>>>>> dermitologist.
>>>>> Having a dog that is high maintainance and cost is impossible when the
>>>>> school does not help with the expense and you don't have alot of money
>>>>> but
>>>>> have enouogh for regular care. Fortunately, I have not had to deal
>>>>> with
>>>>> this issue - yet. Landon does get some skin itchies during the summer
>>>>> but
>>>>> we can deal with that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is
>>>>> like
>>>>> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Juanita Herrera"
>>>>> <juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 12:44 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Veterinary assistance
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Margo, GDB offers veterinary assistance to all their graduates if
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> request it. Tracy, as far as I know they offer $250 for a regular
>>>>>> health
>>>>>> check And to pay for flea preventative and heartworm preventative.
>>>>>> Now,
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> any emergencies were to occur they're usually willing to pay for that
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> well.
>>>>>> Juanita Herrera
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2013, at 11:26 AM, "Margo and Arrow"
>>>>>> <margo.downey at verizon.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, Seeing eye has always granted ownership. Even though we own
>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>> dogs
>>>>>>> when we leave the school as it's always been, Seeing Eye used to pay
>>>>>>> major
>>>>>>> expenses the first year and then you could get a loan if need be
>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>> Now, I think they give a stipend either just the first year or every
>>>>>>> year
>>>>>>> and I think they may still have the loan program.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> GDB I believe used to say that people who owned their dogs wouldn't
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>> from them--someone correct me if I'm wrong. Anyway, they give some
>>>>>>> sort
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> vet assistance now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Margo and Arrow
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steven
>>>>>>> Johnson
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 1:10 PM
>>>>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>> Users'
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Veterinary assistance
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eve,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Veterinary assistance is an interesting subject as I wonder how many
>>>>>>> feel
>>>>>>> that if one is not able to take care of a dog, then why even bother
>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>> one? Kind of a like a car, a home, or any other type of property.
>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> bias opinion, it is the responsibility of the individual, not the
>>>>>>> training
>>>>>>> program to care for the dog. If a training program grants ownership
>>>>>>> upon
>>>>>>> graduation, then by all means, it is that handlers responsibility,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> should be a term in the final ownership contract. If the training
>>>>>>> program
>>>>>>> does not provide ownership until after 1, 2 or however many years,
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> yes,
>>>>>>> subsidizing that cost may indeed be a part of the training programs
>>>>>>> responsibility with the caveat that after ownership is granted, it
>>>>>>> becomes
>>>>>>> their baby to take care of and care for. I would be interested in
>>>>>>> hearing
>>>>>>> what others have to say, as any of us who have a guide realize that
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> are costs involved, and sometimes, significant costs especially if
>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>> catastrophic or emergent occurs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eve
>>>>>>> Sanchez
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 10:51 AM
>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] A cane user interested in a dog guide
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just curious. Reading all the posts, there is a lot of mention of
>>>>>>> veternarian assistance. I am wondering if all the schools provide
>>>>>>> assitance
>>>>>>> of some type. I heard specifically that GDA does and I know that
>>>>>>> Pilot
>>>>>>> does.
>>>>>>> What of the others? As I said, just curious. Eve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Eve Sanchez <celticyaya at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh I knew I would get it for that. It's just a personal prejudice I
>>>>>>>> guess. I wont own one. Never have. Well, I actualy have owned two
>>>>>>>> dogs
>>>>>>>> that were each one quarter lab, but I didnt admit it often. Cant
>>>>>>>> really say as to why. Just experiences I have had I guess and dont
>>>>>>>> bother trying to change my mind. No one can. I have a golden
>>>>>>>> retriever
>>>>>>>> right now. My last dog was a german shepherd. I know that not all
>>>>>>>> dogs
>>>>>>>> in a breed are alike, but I cant get over my prejudice I guess. I
>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>> know that for some reason I could tolerate yellows much better than
>>>>>>>> blacks so I am wondering if it might be a childhood thing. Never
>>>>>>>> really thought about chocolates one way or another. Well, sorry,
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> that's how I feel. ;X Eve Oh and I know it is not black dogs in
>>>>>>>> particular that I do not like. We had a black pitbull once that was
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> sweetheart. Her name was Loca and she thought she was a chihuahua.
>>>>>>>> Again, sorry.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Lyn Gwizdak
>>>>>>>> <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Eve,
>>>>>>>>> What kind of dog do you have? What do you not like about Labs? I
>>>>>>>>> like to hear why people like certain breeds or why they dislike
>>>>>>>>> certain breeds. Many schools are using Lab/Golden crosses now.
>>>>>>>>> Landon is one and he matches my red hair - and he has more grey
>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> have! LOL!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>>>>>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> like asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eve Sanchez"
>>>>>>>>> <celticyaya at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 2:53 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] A cane user interested in a dog guide
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I myself would not worry about the location unless you want your
>>>>>>>>>> training to double as a vacation. haha I believe all schools
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>> take you no matter where you are with maybe a couple of
>>>>>>>>>> exceptions
>>>>>>>>>> like one in NY and one in Texas. I myself chose based on multiple
>>>>>>>>>> things. The breeds available, the amount and type of training
>>>>>>>>>> avalable and yes, assitance and support afterwards. Ideally I
>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>> have gone to San Rafael as I am from Northern Cal originally and
>>>>>>>>>> still have family right there, but I did not under any
>>>>>>>>>> cercumstance
>>>>>>>>>> want a labrador (no offense people). The school I chose have a
>>>>>>>>>> variety of breeds, yes including poodles for the allergic. They
>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>> have Dobermans, shepherds, boxers, labs, goldens, and vizlas. I
>>>>>>>>>> probably spelled that last one wrong. Once in a while they have
>>>>>>>>>> crosses like labradoodles. Most are bred for the program and some
>>>>>>>>>> are donations by breeders they work with. All are screened for
>>>>>>>>>> suitability. The training process is there at the facility as I
>>>>>>>>>> would have been very uncomfortable doing it at my home. Just me,
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> as I was also in process of moving it made sense. Look at all the
>>>>>>>>>> schools online, call and talk to their staff, and make your own
>>>>>>>>>> decision. I could tell you that my school is best, but it may not
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> best for you. Either way, be prepared, there will be people found
>>>>>>>>>> who could tell you what is wrong with each school. Again, judge
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> yourself. I am also thinking you are not even sure at this point
>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>> a dog is right for you. For this I will tell you the same thing.
>>>>>>>>>> When I struggled with this, I had some very opinionated people
>>>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>>>>> me why I should not get a dog. I also had sympathetic wusses tell
>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>> it would be wonderful for me to be taken care of. What finally
>>>>>>>>>> helped me decide was an incident in which I was left alone in a
>>>>>>>>>> park
>>>>>>>>>> and had no idea where I was. I realized at that moment that,
>>>>>>>>>> though
>>>>>>>>>> a cane helps me be safe, it does not tell me where to go. A cane
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> also crappy companionship when on your own. When I am in an
>>>>>>>>>> unknown
>>>>>>>>>> area with my dog, though some people say this is not true, I
>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>> tell my dog to find the sidewalk or whatever. She will and then
>>>>>>>>>> once
>>>>>>>>>> I have a landmark, I have my bearings and can go on from there.
>>>>>>>>>> Yes,
>>>>>>>>>> a cane is safe, but a dog gets you places AND is safe. You decide
>>>>>>>>>> though and talk all that we say with what you think it is worth.
>>>>>>>>>> Blessed Be. Eve
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Chantel Cuddemi
>>>>>>>>>> <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I chose Pilot Dogs because they trained standard poodles, the
>>>>>>>>>>> breed
>>>>>>>>>>> I chose to train with, and I also chose Pilot because they're
>>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>>> here in Ohio.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck with whatever school you choose.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Chantel and Motley.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>>>> Anjelina
>>>>>>>>>>> Cruz
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:31 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] A cane user interested in a dog guide
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Good morning all,
>>>>>>>>>>> I am currently a cane user who recently has been interested in
>>>>>>>>>>> choosing a dog guide school. How did you choose your school?
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for any feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Anjelina
>>>>>>>>>>>
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