[nagdu] Note from Moderator was Staff cuts at guide dog schools

Wed Apr 17 17:38:42 UTC 2013

GDB as well as the Seeing eye sent letters to all of their graduates
explaining why such cut backs were necessary. There are no cover ups here.
Now choosing not to except what the schools have chosen to do with respect
to cut backs and such is a personal opinion of graduates from either school.
Now, from what I know and understand with respect to GDB, graduates still
have a field rep, as well as still receive yearly vet stipends and heartworm
prevenitive medication all at the school's expense. As far as Seeing Eye
graduates, the charge of $150 for the first dog and $50 for each successor
dog is still in place. As well as 3 months of heartworm, and flea
medication, along with 1 year subscriptions to IAADP and home alone micro
chip tracking. And Seeing Eye graduates also are provided  after care  once
we return home.  So, what have we as graduates of either school really lost
with all of these cut backs? 
Tina and the girls  

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Star Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 9:06 AM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Note from Moderator was Staff cuts at guide dog schools

I understand bashing to be things like "Seeing Eye puts out miserable dogs" 
With nothing to explain such a statement. 
Facts are what they are. Experiences are what they are. 
What is wrong with Diane's concern? She has every right to know how and why
money is being spent in a nonprofit institution. We all do. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Larry D. Keeler
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:50 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Note from Moderator was Staff cuts at guide dog schools

It would be interesting to know what schools are getting cut though. How can
you keep the school name out of it when searching for a schools it might be
something to keep in mind.  I do aggree with not bashing however.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:29 AM
Subject: [nagdu] Note from Moderator was Staff cuts at guide dog schools

> this will certainly be a very interesting topic. But with that said, 
> this could also become heated. so as cindy has done below, keep your 
> school name or the school name out of your post. I will not have any 
> school bashing in this thread, so don't even go there.
>
> Thanks cindy for starting the trend.
>
> Marsha drenth, NAGDU List Moderator
> Sent with my IPhone
>
> On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:14 AM, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In the case of one of those schools, probably both, much of the 
>> renovation is updating the facility. In updating facilities, the 
>> organization can probably find other ways to improve them while in 
>> the process. They couldn't do that if they didn't do it now. I don't 
>> know if this is the time or not, but it is probably hard for us to 
>> determine that. In the case of one school, particularly in home turn 
>> overs, they are contracing with trainers who have been trained to 
>> prepare guide dog teams. Although I'm not sure how I feel about it, 
>> and the juryh may still be out on it, that could have bad moments, 
>> but it could also be an enriching experience. Other than that, I 
>> don't have much opinion about it as I have not called my particular 
>> school to seek assistance. I had some last year but I felt it was a 
>> little pointless; maybe part of that was my own attitude, but I don't
think that was the whole of it.
>>
>> I think at some level we have to understand that times they are 
>> a-changing, and at least some of the things we are seeing may well 
>> have to happen. Seeing this in my state, too, with regard to our 
>> state's budget. So I guess I will just watch and wait.
>>
>> Cindy Lou
>>
>> On Apr 17, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Deanna Lewis <DLewis at clovernook.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi list,
>>> I have heard of some very big changes in a couple of guide dog 
>>> schools recently, and am a bit worried by it.
>>> I know that two very well respected Guide Dog schools have had large 
>>> staffing cuts recently. Both schools let go of trainers/field reps 
>>> with years of experience. Also, both schools are also renovating 
>>> their dormitories. I am wondering if there is a connection? And also 
>>> I am worried that this may become a trend with the training 
>>> programs? I hope not.
>>> Do you know of any other schools who have done this recently?
>>> What do y'all think?
>>> I hope not to start a big debate, but I am just worried that many of 
>>> the schools are headed towards being less client driven.
>>>
>>> Deanna and Pascal
>>>
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