[nagdu] Note from Moderator was Staff cuts at guide dog schools

Wed Apr 17 18:40:22 UTC 2013

I'd also like to know this. 
Sorry, a one-liner, but it is a very valid question. 

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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie J.
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Note from Moderator was Staff cuts at guide dog schools

Cindy,

How do they determine if a trainer is trained?  I mean there aren't any
government rules about what makes a guide dog trainer, well except for
California.  So, I'm wondering what the criteria are that makes a person a
guide dog trainer?

Julie

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From: Cindy Ray
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:35 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Note from Moderator was Staff cuts at guide dog schools

Oh, in reading this post that was quoted from mine, I meant to say that in
home turn overs the school is contracting with trainers who are trained but
currently not employed by a school. Really I should check for typos.
CL

On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:29 AM, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com> wrote:

> this will certainly be a very interesting topic. But with that said, 
> this could also become heated. so as cindy has done below, keep your 
> school name or the school name out of your post. I will not have any 
> school bashing in this thread, so don't even go there.
>
> Thanks cindy for starting the trend.
>
> Marsha drenth, NAGDU List Moderator
> Sent with my IPhone
>
> On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:14 AM, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In the case of one of those schools, probably both, much of the 
>> renovation is updating the facility. In updating facilities, the 
>> organization can probably find other ways to improve them while in 
>> the process. They couldn't do that if they didn't do it now. I don't 
>> know if this is the time or not, but it is probably hard for us to 
>> determine that. In the case of one school, particularly in home turn 
>> overs, they are contracing with trainers who have been trained to 
>> prepare guide dog teams. Although I'm not sure how I feel about it, 
>> and the juryh may still be out on it, that could have bad moments, 
>> but it could also be an enriching experience. Other than that, I 
>> don't have much opinion about it as I have not called my particular 
>> school to seek assistance. I had some last year but I felt it was a 
>> little pointless; maybe part of that was my own attitude, but I don't
think that was the whole of it.
>>
>> I think at some level we have to understand that times they are 
>> a-changing, and at least some of the things we are seeing may well 
>> have to happen. Seeing this in my state, too, with regard to our 
>> state's budget. So I guess I will just watch and wait.
>>
>> Cindy Lou
>>
>> On Apr 17, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Deanna Lewis <DLewis at clovernook.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi list,
>>> I have heard of some very big changes in a couple of guide dog 
>>> schools recently, and am a bit worried by it.
>>> I know that two very well respected Guide Dog schools have had large 
>>> staffing cuts recently. Both schools let go of trainers/field reps 
>>> with years of experience. Also, both schools are also renovating 
>>> their dormitories. I am wondering if there is a connection? And also 
>>> I am worried that this may become a trend with the training 
>>> programs? I hope not.
>>> Do you know of any other schools who have done this recently?
>>> What do y'all think?
>>> I hope not to start a big debate, but I am just worried that many of 
>>> the schools are headed towards being less client driven.
>>>
>>> Deanna and Pascal
>>>
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