[nagdu] no follow up

Sun Apr 21 01:22:42 UTC 2013

We learned to blow a whistle threetimes  in connection with feeding our dog.
Therefore, my dog comes when I blow the whistle three times wherever he may
be.

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie J.
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 8:30 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] no follow up

I see the issue as the lady doesn't want any help.  There's lots that she 
could do, fix the yard so the dog can't get out, use a long leash, train a 
new recall from scratch and probably some others.  the thing is though that 
she doesn't want to change what she's doing.  I'm not sure why that is, but 
if you could figure that part out I think things would come together for 
her.

In regard to your second question about off leash play, yes I do allow this.

I'm in the minority though.  I have a fenced back yard where both of my dogs

can run around and do whatever they like.  I also allow Monty to run off 
leash in unfenced areas.  He has the best off leash manners and recall of 
any dog I've ever had.  In the yard at home we play Frisbee not quite daily,

but whenever the weather is halfway decent.  In the summer I take him out to

our farm pond where he can really get in a good run.  I finally got a 
whistle and trained him to come to the whistle, which helps a lot over 
distances or background noise.

I know off leash play is frowned upon by most of the programs in the U.S. 
It's interesting to me that in Europe they are encouraged to let their dogs 
off leash to run.  I see how much of a difference it makes for Monty's 
mental health.  I feel like for him there is much more benefit than risk.

Now my other dog is an entirely different story.  She goes in the fenced 
backyard, but is absolutely not allowed anywhere without a stout leash and 
an adult on the other end.  Given half an opportunity she will run off.  For

an old girl she can run pretty fast! I've had her for around 9 years now.  I

have done obedience, on leash recall, used treats, made the recall into a 
game and every other manner of training I could think of.  She no longer 
tries to bolt out the front door every time someone comes or goes, but her 
recall is still really, really bad.  I honestly believe that in order to get

a really awesome recall you have to teach it from very early puppyhood.  If 
they don't get it from the very beginning, it's going to be a steep uphill 
struggle.

Julie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Eve Sanchez
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:10 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: [nagdu] no follow up

Hi all, My subject line probably does not make sense, but I thought it
might catch attention of those on that thread as well as others. I
think the follow up for someone who wishes it is  great and should be
available. I have a friend though that needs some follow up and is
refusing to get it. I am hoping that some of you might have some good
suggestions for her. She has had her dog for 4 or 5 months now and
says she is very happy with how she works, on harness and on leash,
she is perfect. MY FRIEND IS HAVING AN ISSUE GETTING HER DOG TO COME
TO HER AND I DO NOT KNOW WHY SHE WILL NOT CALL  HER SCHOOL>  She says
that it the house she is fine, but she puts her in the back yard a lot
(something i would not do and am curious as to whether others do).
While in the yard, the dog finds her way and runs the street. She
calls her and her dog refuses to come to her. I suggested as a first
step to put back on the leash as if newly home. I figured this might
help with the bonding that might be lacking. Short of her getting help
from one of the school trainers, which is available to her, do you all
have any suggestions for her? Thanks, Eve

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