[nagdu] Bed and Breakfast

Sun Apr 28 20:18:53 UTC 2013

Hi, Steve, Julie, and All,

I found out that there were different regulations if the space to be rented
was in a building which is also occupied by the owner and which has only a
few rented rooms when I was looking for a place to live off campus when I
went to grad school in the Boston area.  Many times when I responded to ads
for rooms to rent near the campus, I was able to make an appointment to see
the room.  But after visiting, with or without the guide dog, I would often
be told that the room had been previously promised to someone else.  My
suspicions were however aroused by little comments such as, "The room is
upstairs, you know.) which indicated a complete ignorance of the
capabilities of blind persons.  So I think the issue was more often
blindness than the presence of the guide dog.  Even though these rental
properties were on the list which the college kept and provided to students
who were seeking housing, the college officials said there was nothing they
could do about this type of discrimination in properties with less than 4 or
5 units and where the owner was resident in the building.

It would be interesting to see the exact wording of any such regulations,
and also to know whether there are differences between shortterm stays such
as at the B&B's and longer term rentals such as the college housing
situation.  I could understand if the B&B's were under the ADA public
accommodations section, while the college housing situation was under the
FHA or.

Best,
Ann

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie J.
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 12:45 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bed and Breakfast

Steve,

there's an exception when the owner lives in the same building and there are
a very small number of rooms to be rented.  It would be the same thing if I
wanted to rent out my guest room.  I wouldn't be obligated to allow a
service dog with it's handler if I didn't want to.

Julie

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Johnson
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 1:00 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bed and Breakfast

They are still subject to the provisions found under ADA Title III, Places
of Public Accommodation.

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lyn Gwizdak
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 12:32 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bed and Breakfast

Hey Anne,
I wonder where a Bed And Breakfast place would be treated under the ADA?
Anyone know this?

Anne, I would do the same thing if i stayed in a B&B and was bringing my
guide dog.  I never stayed at one but many times they are owned and run by
people who also live there.  So, yeah, I personally would talk to the owner
before going there to make sure all is well.  To me doing this could be the
difference in having a pleasant time or a tense one which nobody needs.

Did you get to see the Lab's puppies while at that B&B?  I bet they were
sooooo cute!

Lyn and Landon
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Edie" <annedie at nycap.rr.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
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Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bed and Breakfast

> Hi, Tracy,
>
> If it is in the US and therefore under US law, I think it makes a 
> difference whether the owner/proprietor lives in the house or 
> elsewhere, and possibly how many rooms there are for rent.  I once 
> stayed at a Bed and Breakfast place in Maine.  I did let the owner 
> know that I would be traveling with my guide dog.  Once I assured her 
> that my dog was very friendly with other dogs, and that, in any case, 
> he would be kept on leash and under my control at all times while on 
> the property, the owner had no objection to my bringing my dog.  The 
> reason she had any reservations was that they did in fact live in the 
> house where the guests stayed, and they had a female Lab which had 
> just had pups.  My Bailey got along fine with all the pets, dogs, 
> puppies, and cats, as well as the moose and other wild animals which 
> we had fairly close encounters with during our stay, but then, Bailey 
> was the dog to whom other animals were invisible.
>
> I think the Bed and Breakfast is one of the few cases where I would 
> inform the owner that I will be traveling with a service animal, 
> because it is more like staying at a person's home than at a hotel.
>
> Hope it works out fine and that you have a great stay.
>
> Best,
> Ann
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy 
> Carcione
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:48 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: [nagdu] Bed and Breakfast
>
> Am I right in thinking that a Bed and Breakfast is the same as a 
> hotel, and not a private home?  I'm planning a weekend getaway 
> sometime this summer, and see a B&B that sounds nice, but I'm 
> wondering if I have to tell them about Ben or not.  I would think not, 
> same as a hotel.
> Tracy
>
>
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