[nagdu] Guide Dogs in Condo swimming pools.

Sun Aug 4 02:32:15 UTC 2013

Well, several things interest me here. First, if a person belongs to a 
condo, can they help make the decissions? Next, if you are on a beach is the 
life guard responsible for any harm that your dog causes or is caused to 
them? Third, can you actually take a dog in a public pool and does the 
chlorine bother the dog? Fourth, how much hair would clog up the filtration 
system? And Finally, why does one need to take the dog in the water with 
them in the first place? Except for play, I can't see what job the dog is 
doing in there for you. I have never seen any dogs in public pools and I 
would be sure to ask those I know who have private pools or ponds. I had a 
friend who took his dog to a public beach and let him swim. The dog was 
awkward in the water and inadvertainly scratched a few of us trying to 
maintain his balance. We didn't complain but I'm sure some would! When I go 
to our public pool, I iether leave Holly here or have my wife go and hold 
the leash. They let her on the deck but not in the pool. I figure, wherever 
pets can play in the water so can Holly. If in doubt, she don't go in! The 
idea is that these dogs are performing a service and that service ends at 
the pool side. In the water they are just like us goofing off in the water! 
If folks don't want our dogs goofing off in there, I think they can say so. 
However, they can't tell us that we can't use our dogs to get to the pool 
area! I'm guessing that if you are part of a condo, folks would have to vote 
to let your dog play there but they couldn't stop you from bringing it down 
to the pool side and tieing it down.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dmgina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dogs in Condo swimming pools.


> My friend living in a condo, puts her dog in the crate then goes swimming. 
> Dog takes a nap, then no one complains. I would do the same if I was in a 
> condo.
>
> Dar
> Every saint has a past,
> Every sinner has a future
>
>
> On Aug 3, 2013, at 4:29 PM, "Ken Ace" <ken at acenovels.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Steve, I appreciate your input,
>> Ken & Ace
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steven Johnson
>> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 6:22 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dogs in Condo swimming pools.
>>
>> Ken, it wouldn't be an ADA issue, but rather a Fair Housing issue if you 
>> are
>> talking your condo.  Unless, the swimming pool is open to the general
>> public, you need to look at fair housing law instead.  Which in that 
>> case, I
>> would be consulting with the condo association first to see if there is
>> anything in writing that either supports or denies this.
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Ace
>> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 5:03 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dogs in Condo swimming pools.
>>
>> I question your " access laws are for people" as I mentioned he is 
>> allowed
>> to stay in my hospital room with me and every place I go like on the 
>> beach
>> where dogs are restricted. My purpose of this  inquiry is to get
>> clarification on ADA and not personal opinions. Most people I know with
>> pools and Labs have them in their pools all the time and that includes my
>> vet and what is wrong with "Play Time"?
>> Thanks,
>> Ken & Ace
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darla Rogers
>> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 5:57 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dogs in Condo swimming pools.
>>
>> Dear Ken,
>>
>>    Access laws apply to peo9ple not dogs; you can take him there, but I
>> suspect that if they don't want the dog in the pool, especially if 
>> residents
>> claim allergies, you won't have much to  go on; besides, why would you 
>> put
>> your dog in highly chlorinated water?
>> Curiously, Darla
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Ace
>> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 4:27 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dogs in Condo swimming pools.
>>
>> Thanks for the reply. Ace gets shaved once a month, groomed once a week 
>> and
>> brushed in between so I am not too concerned about the filter and I would
>> think ADA would trump any local ordinances but I just can't find a ADA
>> ruling  on the subject.
>> Thanks again,
>> Ken & Ace
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darla Rogers
>> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 5:06 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dogs in Condo swimming pools.
>>
>> Hi Ken,
>>
>>    So long as it is cool enough, I don't know why you shouldn't take
>> him so long as people don't bother him or he bother anyone else.
>>    If you're asking about actually allowing him to swim with you, I'm
>> not sure there is a law that applies, but it will tend to clog up the 
>> pool
>> filter  and thus not make the HOA very happy. <grin> Darla & Huck
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Ace
>> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 3:43 PM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nagdu] Guide Dogs in Condo swimming pools.
>>
>> I recently attended a continuing education class to maintain my LCAM
>> license. During the class the question came up about Guide Dogs in condo
>> settings and access to swimming pools.
>>
>> The answer was that in most cases Guide Dogs should be thought of as 
>> being
>> invisible as they were allowed anywhere their owner was.
>>
>> I know that my Guide Dog has stayed in my hospital room with me on 
>> several
>> occasions and is allowed anywhere but the OR.
>>
>> I would love to swim in our condo pool but only with my dog as I don't 
>> feel
>> comfortable without him.
>>
>> Do you have any information in this regard? I have tried to Google it for 
>> an
>> answer, and it may be my limited computer skills but I can't find an 
>> answer.
>>
>> Do have any info on this?
>>
>> Ken & Ace
>>
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