[nagdu] Guide Dogs in Condo swimming pools.

Sun Aug 4 02:35:14 UTC 2013

That doesn't allow them in the pool does it? Wouldn't think so but, don't 
know everything!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "National Association of Guide Dog Users" <blind411 at verizon.net>
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Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dogs in Condo swimming pools.


> STEVE,
> I'm not sure this is correct. It is my understanding that FHA
> applies to the residential areas of housing, whereas the common areas are
> governed by the ADA. A service animal under FHA is allowed access only in
> the residence and the direct path to it. Service animals, as defined by 
> the
> ADA are allowed in any place others are invited, such as the pool, fitness
> center, club house, etc. I will be speaking with our legal counsel on
> Tuesday concerning the airlines and a cruise issue, so I will try to
> remember to ask her this question.
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion Gwizdala
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steven Johnson
> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 6:22 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dogs in Condo swimming pools.
>
> Ken, it wouldn't be an ADA issue, but rather a Fair Housing issue if you 
> are
> talking your condo.  Unless, the swimming pool is open to the general
> public, you need to look at fair housing law instead.  Which in that case, 
> I
> would be consulting with the condo association first to see if there is
> anything in writing that either supports or denies this.
> Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Ace
> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 5:03 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dogs in Condo swimming pools.
>
> I question your " access laws are for people" as I mentioned he is allowed
> to stay in my hospital room with me and every place I go like on the beach
> where dogs are restricted. My purpose of this  inquiry is to get
> clarification on ADA and not personal opinions. Most people I know with
> pools and Labs have them in their pools all the time and that includes my
> vet and what is wrong with "Play Time"?
> Thanks,
> Ken & Ace
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darla Rogers
> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 5:57 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dogs in Condo swimming pools.
>
> Dear Ken,
>
> Access laws apply to peo9ple not dogs; you can take him there, but I
> suspect that if they don't want the dog in the pool, especially if 
> residents
> claim allergies, you won't have much to  go on; besides, why would you put
> your dog in highly chlorinated water?
> Curiously, Darla
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Ace
> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 4:27 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dogs in Condo swimming pools.
>
> Thanks for the reply. Ace gets shaved once a month, groomed once a week 
> and
> brushed in between so I am not too concerned about the filter and I would
> think ADA would trump any local ordinances but I just can't find a ADA
> ruling  on the subject.
> Thanks again,
> Ken & Ace
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darla Rogers
> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 5:06 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dogs in Condo swimming pools.
>
> Hi Ken,
>
> So long as it is cool enough, I don't know why you shouldn't take
> him so long as people don't bother him or he bother anyone else.
> If you're asking about actually allowing him to swim with you, I'm
> not sure there is a law that applies, but it will tend to clog up the pool
> filter  and thus not make the HOA very happy. <grin> Darla & Huck
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Ace
> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 3:43 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nagdu] Guide Dogs in Condo swimming pools.
>
> I recently attended a continuing education class to maintain my LCAM
> license. During the class the question came up about Guide Dogs in condo
> settings and access to swimming pools.
>
> The answer was that in most cases Guide Dogs should be thought of as being
> invisible as they were allowed anywhere their owner was.
>
> I know that my Guide Dog has stayed in my hospital room with me on several
> occasions and is allowed anywhere but the OR.
>
> I would love to swim in our condo pool but only with my dog as I don't 
> feel
> comfortable without him.
>
> Do you have any information in this regard? I have tried to Google it for 
> an
> answer, and it may be my limited computer skills but I can't find an 
> answer.
>
> Do have any info on this?
>
> Ken & Ace
>
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