[nagdu] Suggestions needed!

[Margo Downey and Arrow]

The ADA would have to be changed since it does state that no I D can be
requested.

Margo and Arrow

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of minh ha
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 11:24 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Suggestions needed!

I agree a certification test is asking way too much of a handler, but I
still think some sort of identification/registration would be a good idea. A
lot of people object to the notion of carrying an ID proving that their
service animal is legitimate because they would have to disclose their
disability, but a system can definitely be established where the person can
still keep their disability private. If an entity could be developed that
certifies that the animal has been through the necessary training, either by
an organization or a private trainer, and then issue an ID that simply says
"service animal," it wouldn't infringe on anybody's rights. It would
probably stop all of this fake service dog stuff too. I'm sure not a lot of
people would like this idea as they still think it would go against their
rights or something, but I still like the idea of it being regulated.

Respectfully,
Minh

On 8/17/13, Howard J. Levine <WB2HWW at earthlink.net> wrote:
> I agree keep the government out of it we don't need any more laws. If 
> service dog is not quiet or making problems in a store then he should 
> be made to leave, just like a person can be made to leave store if 
> they are a problem.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie J.
> Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 10:31 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Suggestions needed!
>
> I think limiting breeds or even identifying specific breeds as common 
> service dogs creates a couple of problems.
>
> Every dog is unique and although dogs within a breed will have 
> similarities in temperament, there are always going to be exceptions.  
> I'm sure there are very nice Chihuahua's out there.  I had a Beagle as 
> a kid that was a menace to society.
>
> Suggesting or pointing to specific breeds will give the impression 
> that only
>
> those breeds can be service dogs.   Different breeds have different
> talents.
>
> What we choose for a guide might be the polar opposite of what someone 
> that needs a hearing dog would choose.  Also there may be things that 
> dogs can do that we haven't discovered yet.  I wouldn't want to say 
> that St. Bernard's can never be used as service dogs, only to find out 
> in 20 years that their saliva contains some enzyme that can be used 
> for pain management for people with advanced arthritis.  I totally 
> made that up, but I don't think we've discovered everything that dogs 
> are capable of helping with yet.
>
> My final issue is that the general public is not very good with breed 
> identification.  I had people mistake my Beagle for a pit bull.  And 
> what about the mixed breed dogs?  Just the other day I had someone 
> insist that Monty looked like a Great Dane.  Or at the state fair a 
> couple of years ago, I had someone say he was a pit bull.
>
> I think entering into the area of what breeds are used as service dogs 
> will cause more confusion than it will clear up.  Any public education 
> efforts we offer have to be super simple, straightforward and black 
> and white.  The less open for interpretation the better.  Either the 
> dog has fleas and should be asked to leave or he doesn't.  Either the 
> dog pooped on the floor and should be asked to leave or he didn't.
>
> JMHO
> Julie
>
>
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