[nagdu] Service dogs who were pets

[Julie J.]

I think it really depends on how the dogs were raised, not so much that they 
were pets.  For example many pet owners think the begging thing is cute and 
allow it.  However there are many pet owners who think begging is not cool 
and don't allow it.  Same goes with jumping up, stealing food, sniffing 
inappropriately etc.  I know some pet dogs who could very easily transition 
to being service dogs.  I think you're right though, in that most folks 
don't have very big expectations of what their dog should be doing if it is 
transitioned from pet to service dog.  The mindset of it's okay at home so 
it's okay here, seems to be pretty common. I guess I'm saying that it's not 
so much that the dog was a pet, but how the person views pets, as what I see 
as a potentially problematic situation.

Julie




-----Original Message----- 
From: Tracy Carcione
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 11:46 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Service dogs who were pets

Did the training center instruct the owners about the kind of behavior
expected of service dogs?  Or did they work it out on their own?
Tracy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Margo Downey and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
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Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Service dogs who were pets


> Hi.  A couple of friends have service dogs who were their pets but were
> trained at a service dog facility--very wonderful balance dogs.  The
> facility staff determined that the dogs would be good for the service
> purpose and then trained them for that.
>
> Margoa nd Arrow
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 10:54 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: [nagdu] Service dogs who were pets
>
> I've been thinking about what Ann said about expectations.  I bet many
> people who have trained a pet to be a service dog still think of it first 
> as
> a pet, if only subconsciously.  There's Fluffy, begging at the table, 
> saying
> Hi to everyone he meets, and then Joe Q discovers Fluffy can do this great
> extra thing, like detect low blood sugar or anxiety, and alert him to it, 
> so
> Joe Q trains Fluffy to enhance that ability, but doesn't do any other
> training, or change how he thinks about Fluffy, except to appreciate his 
> new
> skill.  On the other hand, most of us, from the first, think of our dogs 
> as
> service dogs first, and pets second.  From the beginning, everything we do
> is with service in mind, and thus we expect a different standard of
> behavior.  Everything that's done has to be evaluated as to how it will
> affect the dog's work. For instance, I'm sure Jetta is not being allowed 
> to
> beg at the table, because that is not acceptable guide dog behavior.
> So, as Ann said, people who've trained pets as service dogs have to be 
> made
> more aware of acceptable service dog behavior, which, IMO, requires a 
> change
> of mindset.  I'm not sure how that could be done, though.  I wonder if an
> organization like IAADP could be helpful, having as members many kinds of
> assistance dog partners.
> Tracy
>
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