[nagdu] Bandanas and winter coats

Doug Parisian eggmann at mymts.net
Mon Dec 9 04:48:53 UTC 2013 

Fine boots, except if you get on and off several busses.  Believe me, in 
colder climates, dots would rather have bare feet than be walking on blocks 
of ice which may or may not be frozen to the hairs on the paws.  Very few 
schools train in conditions common to much of Canada; damn, folks at seeing 
eye often wimp out in cold conditions.  I do in fact recall near the end of 
my training period staff shovelling off curbs on our planned route.  This 
would be understandable near the beginning of the training, but the covered 
curbs for those of us (only me in that class) who would be headed home. 
Fortunately, I had worked with four previous dogs so I could manage that 
little extra teaching on my own..

Doug: soul on ice.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Raven Tolliver" <ravend729 at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bandanas and winter coats


:I too will never forget the day at GEB where the instructors had us
: put the booties on our dogs. As soon as Kipling started galloping and
: walking super fast, I died! I laughed so hard, I cried through the
: majority of the practice session. And the same thing happened the
: second time, which was outside.
: The problem with the boots is that dogs cannot feel the ground through
: the footwear. This is one of the reasons why I prefer my dog to wear
: thin, latex booties. The product Musher's secret is fantastic because
: it creates an effective barrier between the salt and cold without
: depriving a dog of its sense of touch through its feet.
:
:
:
: On 12/8/13, Nicole Torcolini <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
: > Hahaha, yes. GDB did not yet issue boots when I received Lexia, but they
: > had
: > them for some of the upcoming classes and let me try them. And, yes... 
She
: > pranced like a horse. I guess that dogs just don't like stuff on/around
: > their heds and feet.
: >
: > -----Original Message-----
: > From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Doug Parisian
: > Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 2:47 PM
: > To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
: > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bandanas and winter coats
: >
: > To add to the conversation, I've never used a coat for my dogs in 
Winnipeg
: > and at present, The wind chill here is minus 40, which is the same by 
the
: > way in both selcius and Fahrenheit.  Mind, I'd not likely spend a lot of
: > time outdoors in this weather, even though Douglas is currently dogless.
: >
: > Further, I've never found boots that either breath, or that don't absorb
: > moisture.  TSI gave me boots (for my dog, also named Boots) and she 
hated
: > them.  I do admit the first time we tried then in training, I got the
: > giggles listening to this little baby horsy pattering beside me.
: >
: > Usually, once I leave the house, I'm on and off at least one bus.  In
: > winter, others get on the bus and naturally, there are little puddles on
: > the
: > floor, not due to cold passengers loosing control, but due to melting 
snow.
: >
: > So, the dog gets on the bus, walks through the puddles with boots 
picking
: > up
: > more water than would be with bare feet, gets off and boots freeze very
: > quickly.  The rest should be obvious.
: >
: > The real problem to me is that, unlike dogs, I can dress in super winter
: > clothing and feel quite warm.  Further, our dogs to not live out doors 
so
: > that adapting to the cold, though it certainly does happen, may not be 
as
: > rapid nor complete as for the outdoor pups.
: >
: > Doug: cold feet, warm heart?
: >
: >
: >
: > ----- Original Message -----
: > From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
: > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
: > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
: > Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 3:35 PM
: > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bandanas and winter coats
: >
: >
: > : We actually have to adjust as well. After we have acclamated, we don't
: > shiver so much either. Coats do grow to compensate, specially if you get
: > out
: >
: > a lot.
: > : CL
: > :
: > : On Dec 8, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Shannon Dyer <solsticesinger at gmail.com>
: > wrote:
: > :
: > : > I'm not trying to cause offense, but I really don't see why people 
buy
: > coats for their dogs. The common breeds (labs, goldens, etc.) have very
: > good
: >
: > coats to keep them warm. Labs are bred to be outdoors.
: > : >
: > : > Sure, there might be some initial shivering. My dogs have done this,
: > but
: >
: > I figure they have to adjust to the change in temperature. If we cover 
them
: >
: > in coats and the like, they'll never adjust.
: > : >
: > : > Shannon and the Acelet
: > : > On Dec 8, 2013, at 1:02 AM, "Nicole Torcolini"
: > <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
: > : >
: > : >> Lexia has a bunch of bandanas, but most of them are from her 
groomer
: > or
: >
: > from
: > : >> the groomer that did the family pet dog back in the day. My mother 
did
: >
: > buy a
: > : >> few of the bandanas, but I don't know where she got them. In any 
case,
: >
: > Lexia
: > : >> does not mind them; I think that she actually likes them.
: > : >> Now that I live in California, Lexia does not need a Winter coat. 
When
: >
: > I
: > : >> lived in Washington State, I had one for her that I occasionally 
used
: > when
: > : >> she came in and was damp or wet and cold. It looked a lot like a 
horse
: > : >> blanket, but it was not something that a dog would wear outside.
: > Someone
: > : >> also made Lexia a sweater. If I remember correctly, it was made to 
go
: > over
: > : >> the harness handle.
: > : >>
: > : >> Nicole and Lexia
: > : >>
: > : >> -----Original Message-----
: > : >> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sherry
: > Gomes
: > : >> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 6:38 PM
: > : >> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
Users'
: > : >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bandanas and winter coats
: > : >>
: > : >> I just bought some bandanas from amazon. You can find almost 
anything
: > there.
: > : >> My retired dog never liked any sort of clothing thing on her, but I
: > think
: > : >> Olga will actually like it. We'll see. they weren't expensive so if
: > neither
: > : >> likes them it will be ok.
: > : >>
: > : >> Sherry
: > : >>
: > : >>
: > : >>
: > : >> -----Original Message-----
: > : >> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of minh ha
: > : >> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 5:42 PM
: > : >> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
: > : >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bandanas and winter coats
: > : >>
: > : >> Alyssa,
: > : >> I'm glad you found cute bandanas for Sophie--our dogs need to be in
: > style
: > : >> too. :D
: > : >>
: > : >> As for the winter coat, I definitely think you should get her one 
if
: > she was
: > : >> shivering. What kind of dog is she? Viva is a yellow lab but her 
fur
: > is
: > : >> super short so she was shivering too when the temperatures got down 
to
: >
: > about
: > : >> 10 degrees here. I know some dogs don't need a coat because their 
fur
: > is
: > : >> nice and thick and that gives them enough protection from the cold. 
I
: > bought
: > : >> Viva a simple fleece-lined coat from Petco to give her a little bit
: > more
: > : >> warmth. Most coats that are sold commercially go underneath the
: > harness
: >
: > so
: > : >> you would have to loosen the harness strap to fit it over the coat. 
My
: >
: > mom
: > : >> knows how to sew and she's actually going to make Viva a custom 
fleece
: >
: > coat
: > : >> over break that can go over the harness. I'm really excited about 
this
: > : >> because it's a pain to have readjusting the harness strap back and
: > forth
: > : >> depending on whether or not the temperature outside is cold enough 
to
: > : >> warrant the coat.
: > : >>
: > : >> Hope this helps,
: > : >> Minh
: > : >>
: > : >> On 12/7/13, Alyssa <alyssahenson95 at gmail.com> wrote:
: > : >>> Hello all. I'm sorry for posting so many questions lately, but 
this
: > is
: > : >>> my first dog and I want to make sure all is right. I'd first like 
to
: > : >>> say
: > : >> thanks
: > : >>> for the bandana suggestions. Sophie has an NIU bandana from our
: > : >>> bookstore too. I found a couple cute Christmas ones at Walmart for 
a
: > : >>> dollar a piece for anyone else who is looking. And now, the 
question.
: > : >>> Here in Illinois,
: > : >> it
: > : >>> got down to 14 degrees last night. I had to take a short walk from 
a
: > : >>> building to my friend's car. During this 2 minute walk, Sophie 
began
: > : >>> shivering and continued to do so during the 10 minute car ride we
: > : >>> took. Is this normal? Should I purchase Sophie a winter coat? Is
: > there
: > : >>> a certain
: > : >> one
: > : >>> that won't interfere with her harness? All help is appreciated.
: > Thanks
: > : >>> everyone!
: > : >>> Alyssa and Sophie
: > : >>>
: > : >>> Sent from my iPhone
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