[nagdu] Dog Day Stories

[Alyssa Henson]

Hi all! I'm happy to share my dog story with you all. When dog day
arrived, everyone in my class at Leader Dogs was extatic. I exited my
room to find most of my classmates sitting in the lounge cheering
about it being a happy dog day. IN the morning, we practiced healing
and parking dogs. They weren't our real dogs. They were just pet dogs
belonging to the instructors or other dogs from the kennil. At lunch,
my instructor approached the table where myself and the other three
students in her particular class sat. She told us what order our dogs
would come in. Luckily, I was the first one to get my dog. At 1:00
PmM, my instructor knocked on my door. When she entered, she asked if
I wanted to hear about my dog. I happily agreed and she began. She
told me the dog's name is Sophie. She's a golden lab cross who was
born on January 11, 2012. She then asked if I had any questions. When
I said no, I handed her my leash and she went to collect and park my
dog. When she knocked on my door again, I Happily answered and was
greeted bya perky dog. She jumped on me and began vigorously sniffing
me. My sinstructor said the dog liked me. After a few minutes of
climatizing, she left me alone to start bonding with my new friend. At
first, Sophie cried for my instructor, but this behavior stopped
pretty quickly once we started practicing heeling in the hallways .I
couldn't believe my luck in jgetting such a beautiful dog, and I'm
still thankful to herfor her to this day.

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>    1. Re: Seeing Eye Dog Leads Owner From Burning Home In	Southwest
>       Philadelphia (rhonda cruz)
>    2. Re: trains (rhonda cruz)
>    3. Re: Seeing Eye Dog Leads Owner From Burning Home	InSouthwest
>       Philadelphia (Doug Parisian)
>    4. Emailing: Exams got you stressed Rover to the rescue.doc
>       (Margo Downey and Arrow)
>    5. dog day stories (Laurel and Stockard)
>    6. Re: dog day stories (craig.heaps at comcast.net)
>    7. Re: dog day stories (RJ Sandefur)
>    8. Re: dog day stories (Laurel and Stockard)
>    9. Re: dog day stories (RJ Sandefur)
>   10. Re: dog day stories (Chantel Cuddemi)
>   11. Re: dog day stories (RJ Sandefur)
>   12. Re: dog day stories (Stephanie)
>   13. Re: dog day stories (Raven Tolliver)
>   14. Re: dog day stories (Larry D. Keeler)
>   15. Re: dog day stories (Larry D. Keeler)
>   16. Re: dog day stories (William Vandervest)
>   17. Re: dog day stories (Larry D. Keeler)
>   18. Re: dog day stories (Larry D. Keeler)
>   19. incredibly sad story and a reminder, dogs, yards and poison
>       (Laurel and Stockard)
>   20. Re: dog day stories (Stephanie)
>   21. Re: dog day stories (Larry D. Keeler)
>   22. Re: dog day stories (Stephanie)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 07:23:55 -0800
> From: rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Seeing Eye Dog Leads Owner From Burning Home In
> 	Southwest Philadelphia
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>  hi i think that was a vary smart dog,
>  i am glad that the handler is out safe,
>
>
> On Dec 11, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Ginger Kutsch wrote:
>
>> Seeing Eye Dog Leads Owner From Burning Home In Southwest Philadelphia
>>
>> December 10, 2013 10:00 PM
>>
>> By Diana Rocco
>>
>> Source:
>> http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2013/12/10/exclusive-guide-dog-saves-owner-
>> from-burning-home-in-west-philadelphia/
>>
>>
>>
>> PHILADELPHIA (CBS) - A blind man says he surely would have been killed if
>> his Seeing Eye dog didn't lead him out of his burning home.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tonight, he is speaking out and he's talking only to Eyewitness News.
>>
>>
>>
>> Luther Johnson, 74, is alive and he says that's all that matters.
>>
>>
>>
>> "I felt something nudging me, like touching me, and I jumped up, and
>> that's
>> when I smelled the smoke," he said.
>>
>>
>>
>> Fire tore through his 59th and Chester Street home while he was sleeping.
>> Luther lost his sight 30 years ago and has relied on guide dogs. Monday
>> night it was two-year-old Yates that woke him up from a dead sleep.
>>
>>
>>
>> "When I woke up I could hear him jumping and prancing, so I thought maybe
>> it
>> was him that was nudging me on my right shoulder," Luther said.
>>
>>
>>
>> Luther could smell the smoke and feel the heat of the fire. He knew he
>> had
>> to get out fast. He was able to grab his cell phone, coat and shoes and
>> make
>> out the front door with Yates leading the way, just as the fire
>> department
>> was arriving.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Angels are God's messengers and workers. So He sent them, he sent an
>> angel,
>> and I guess the angel was through my dog Yates," Luther said.
>>
>>
>>
>> Luther and Yates are now staying in Red Cross housing. He's lost
>> everything
>> he owns, but still he'll tell you this.
>>
>>
>>
>> "I'm blessed. A lot of people don't make it. All night and all day,
>> that's
>> all I've been doing is thanking God," he said.
>>
>>
>>
>> The fire is still under investigation. Luther's family believes it was
>> electrical. He's lived in this home and on this block for 38 years, but
>> he's
>> grateful to be walking away with his life.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 07:30:49 -0800
> From: rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] trains
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>  hi larry, i like the trane much better for dogs, then the bus anyway.
>
>
> On Dec 11, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>
>> I actually like the train much better than the bus for dogs. The isles are
>> wider, the places for wheelchairs are bigger and in general, just a whole
>> lot more room.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "rhonda cruz"
>> <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] trains
>>
>>
>>> hi i offen take the trane, with mya, and it works great, she loves it,
>>>
>>> On Dec 11, 2013, at 7:39 AM, Tracy Carcione wrote:
>>>
>>>> I usually let the dog go in front of me, sort of single file, and hold
>>>> the
>>>> stair rail with my free hand, if it's on my right side.
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>> hi tres and I had to catch a train but it was up higher than we were
>>>>> so
>>>>> needed to climb up steps to board the train. What is the best way to
>>>>> board a train with a narrow stairway with a guide dog? thanks in
>>>>> advance.
>>>>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 10:04:47 -0600
> From: Doug Parisian <eggmann at mymts.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Seeing Eye Dog Leads Owner From Burning Home
> 	InSouthwest Philadelphia
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> Oh yes, lots of public appeal but lets get real folks, whether it was truly
>
> a Seeing Eye Dog, pilot, Some media monkey probably made themselves feel
> good.  Any number of dogs would do the same thing.  If the guy had been in
> fact blind for what, 30 years, surely he would have had the mobility and
> orientation skills to take charge once the dog woke him up.  Chances are the
>
> act was as much for self preservation as loyalty to the master, and their
> ain't nothing wrong with that.
>
> Doug: the bubble buster!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rhonda cruz" <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 9:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Seeing Eye Dog Leads Owner From Burning Home
> InSouthwest Philadelphia
>
>
> : hi i think that was a vary smart dog,
> : i am glad that the handler is out safe,
> :
> :
> : On Dec 11, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Ginger Kutsch wrote:
> :
> : > Seeing Eye Dog Leads Owner From Burning Home In Southwest Philadelphia
> : >
> : > December 10, 2013 10:00 PM
> : >
> : > By Diana Rocco
> : >
> : > Source:
> : >
> http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2013/12/10/exclusive-guide-dog-saves-owner-
> : > from-burning-home-in-west-philadelphia/
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : > PHILADELPHIA (CBS) - A blind man says he surely would have been killed
> if
> : > his Seeing Eye dog didn't lead him out of his burning home.
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : > Tonight, he is speaking out and he's talking only to Eyewitness News.
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : > Luther Johnson, 74, is alive and he says that's all that matters.
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : > "I felt something nudging me, like touching me, and I jumped up, and
> that's
> : > when I smelled the smoke," he said.
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : > Fire tore through his 59th and Chester Street home while he was
> sleeping.
> : > Luther lost his sight 30 years ago and has relied on guide dogs. Monday
> : > night it was two-year-old Yates that woke him up from a dead sleep.
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : > "When I woke up I could hear him jumping and prancing, so I thought
> maybe it
> : > was him that was nudging me on my right shoulder," Luther said.
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : > Luther could smell the smoke and feel the heat of the fire. He knew he
> had
> : > to get out fast. He was able to grab his cell phone, coat and shoes and
>
> make
> : > out the front door with Yates leading the way, just as the fire
> department
> : > was arriving.
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : > "Angels are God's messengers and workers. So He sent them, he sent an
> angel,
> : > and I guess the angel was through my dog Yates," Luther said.
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : > Luther and Yates are now staying in Red Cross housing. He's lost
> everything
> : > he owns, but still he'll tell you this.
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : > "I'm blessed. A lot of people don't make it. All night and all day,
> that's
> : > all I've been doing is thanking God," he said.
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : > The fire is still under investigation. Luther's family believes it was
> : > electrical. He's lived in this home and on this block for 38 years, but
>
> he's
> : > grateful to be walking away with his life.
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 13:56:26 -0600
> From: Laurel and Stockard <laurel.stockard at gmail.com>
> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
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> Subject: [nagdu] dog day stories
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> Hi all,
> I'm usually a list lurker, but a discussion we're having on another list
> prompted me to start the same discussion here.
>
> I know dog day experiences are different depending on the school, your
> situation, and the dog. I know we haven't discussed this in awhile, and I
> would love to hear from each of you about your dog day memories. I'd love to
> hear about your memories with your current dog, or a previous dog that
> really stood out, and I would especially like to hear those of you who've
> attended more than one school, how were your different dog days similar and
> how were they different.
>
> Since this thread could get long and crowded, let's try and post all of our
> individual stories in one message each, and if we respond to people, let's
> try and respond to more than one person per message. That'll help keep this
> thread from totally cluttering the list.
>
> I'll start with my story.
>
> May 24 of 2010, I went to guide dogs for the blind's Oregon campus to
> receive my first guide. I told GDB that I wanted a yellow dog, because I can
> see lighter colors better, and I wanted to see my dog's face. I was the only
> first timer in my class, and the youngest by 30 years. :-) After lunch, they
> brought the entire class into a room and read the names of our dogs, colors
> and breeds, for each class member. They told me that I would receive a
> female yellow lab named Stockard. I thought, Stockard, Stockard, where did
> that name come from! It struck me as a weird name, and I didn't know if I
> liked it at first. We went back to our rooms, and while I waited I googled
> the name Stockard and discovered the actress Stockard Channing, and I
> figured my dog was named after her, so I though that was cool. I waited for
> ever! I was the last person to receive my dog, and while I waited, I called
> all my family and friends to update them. Finally, it was my turn. I went
> down to the instructor's office and handed over my leash. The instructor
> went away and came back with my dog! She handed me the leash, and I could
> feel Stockard wiggling around on the end. :-) The first thing I felt was
> Stockard's soft, long ears. She almost immediately gave me her belly to
> scratch, and I rubbed it while the instructors told me her birthday,
> parents, and described her for me. I thought she was beautiful, and it only
> took me half a second to love the name. /grins/ I took her back to my room
> and sat on the floor with her, and the rest is history.
>
> I can't wait to hear the rest of you all's stories!
> Laurel and Stockard
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 20:02:03 +0000 (UTC)
> From: craig.heaps at comcast.net
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
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> I have been writing a blog about my dog, Chase.? It started the day before I
> began training at Guide Dogs for the Blind in San Rafael, California.?
> ?
> I called it Blind Faith: My Life with a Guide Dog.
> ?
> You can find it here:
> craigdogdays.blogspot.com
> ?
> I tried to detail my experiences during the two weeks of training.
> ?
> Craig Heaps
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Laurel and Stockard" <laurel.stockard at gmail.com>
> To: "the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:56:26 AM
> Subject: [nagdu] dog day stories
>
> Hi all,
> I'm usually a list lurker, but a discussion we're having on another list
> prompted me to start the same discussion here.
>
> I know dog day experiences are different depending on the school, your
> situation, and the dog. I know we haven't discussed this in awhile, and I
> would love to hear from each of you about your dog day memories. I'd love to
> hear about your memories with your current dog, or a previous dog that
> really stood out, and I would especially like to hear those of you who've
> attended more than one school, how were your different dog days similar and
> how were they different.
>
> Since this thread could get long and crowded, let's try and post all of our
> individual stories in one message each, and if we respond to people, let's
> try and respond to more than one person per message. That'll help keep this
> thread from totally cluttering the list.
>
> I'll start with my story.
>
> May 24 of 2010, I went to guide dogs for the blind's Oregon campus to
> receive my first guide. I told GDB that I wanted a yellow dog, because I can
> see lighter colors better, and I wanted to see my dog's face. I was the only
> first timer in my class, and the youngest by 30 years. :-) After lunch, they
> brought the entire class into a room and read the names of our dogs, colors
> and breeds, for each class member. They told me that I would receive a
> female yellow lab named Stockard. I thought, Stockard, Stockard, where did
> that name come from! It struck me as a weird name, and I didn't know if I
> liked it at first. We went back to our rooms, and while I waited I googled
> the name Stockard and discovered the actress Stockard Channing, and I
> figured my dog was named after her, so I though that was cool. I waited for
> ever! I was the last person to receive my dog, and while I waited, I called
> all my family and friends to update them. Finally, it was my turn. I went
> down to the instructor's office and handed over my leash. The instructor
> went away and came back with my dog! She handed me the leash, and I could
> feel Stockard wiggling around on the end. :-) The first thing I felt was
> Stockard's soft, long ears. She almost immediately gave me her belly to
> scratch, and I rubbed it while the instructors told me her birthday,
> parents, and described her for me. I thought she was beautiful, and it only
> took me half a second to love the name. /grins/ I took her back to my room
> and sat on the floor with her, and the rest is history.
>
> I can't wait to hear the rest of you all's stories!
> Laurel and Stockard
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 15:04:39 -0500
> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
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>
> Laurel, What was it like for you getting your first dog? RJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Laurel and Stockard" <laurel.stockard at gmail.com>
> To: "the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 2:56 PM
> Subject: [nagdu] dog day stories
>
>
>> Hi all,
>> I'm usually a list lurker, but a discussion we're having on another list
>> prompted me to start the same discussion here.
>>
>> I know dog day experiences are different depending on the school, your
>> situation, and the dog. I know we haven't discussed this in awhile, and I
>>
>> would love to hear from each of you about your dog day memories. I'd love
>>
>> to hear about your memories with your current dog, or a previous dog that
>>
>> really stood out, and I would especially like to hear those of you who've
>>
>> attended more than one school, how were your different dog days similar
>> and how were they different.
>>
>> Since this thread could get long and crowded, let's try and post all of
>> our individual stories in one message each, and if we respond to people,
>> let's try and respond to more than one person per message. That'll help
>> keep this thread from totally cluttering the list.
>>
>> I'll start with my story.
>>
>> May 24 of 2010, I went to guide dogs for the blind's Oregon campus to
>> receive my first guide. I told GDB that I wanted a yellow dog, because I
>> can see lighter colors better, and I wanted to see my dog's face. I was
>> the only first timer in my class, and the youngest by 30 years. :-) After
>>
>> lunch, they brought the entire class into a room and read the names of our
>>
>> dogs, colors and breeds, for each class member. They told me that I would
>>
>> receive a female yellow lab named Stockard. I thought, Stockard, Stockard,
>>
>> where did that name come from! It struck me as a weird name, and I didn't
>>
>> know if I liked it at first. We went back to our rooms, and while I waited
>>
>> I googled the name Stockard and discovered the actress Stockard Channing,
>>
>> and I figured my dog was named after her, so I though that was cool. I
>> waited for ever! I was the last person to receive my dog, and while I
>> waited, I called all my family and friends to update them. Finally, it was
>>
>> my turn. I went down to the instructor's office and handed over my leash.
>>
>> The instructor went away and came back with my dog! She handed me the
>> leash, and I could feel Stockard wiggling around on the end. :-) The first
>>
>> thing I felt was Stockard's soft, long ears. She almost immediately gave
>> me her belly to scratch, and I rubbed it while the instructors told me her
>>
>> birthday, parents, and described her for me. I thought she was beautiful,
>>
>> and it only took me half a second to love the name. /grins/ I took her
>> back to my room and sat on the floor with her, and the rest is history.
>>
>> I can't wait to hear the rest of you all's stories!
>> Laurel and Stockard
>> _______________________________________________
>> nagdu mailing list
>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> nagdu:
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>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 14:14:12 -0600
> From: Laurel and Stockard <laurel.stockard at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
> Message-ID: <18C1388B-28D5-479E-AA19-A5A596C36DCC at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Craig, thanks for the wonderful link! R.J., if you continue to read my
> original message, I describe my dog day further down in my post. I'm sorry
> my post is so long. :-) Hope that helps. :-)
> Laurel and Stockard
> On Dec 12, 2013, at 2:04 PM, RJ Sandefur <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Laurel, What was it like for you getting your first dog? RJ
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurel and Stockard"
>> <laurel.stockard at gmail.com>
>> To: "the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 2:56 PM
>> Subject: [nagdu] dog day stories
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I'm usually a list lurker, but a discussion we're having on another list
>>> prompted me to start the same discussion here.
>>>
>>> I know dog day experiences are different depending on the school, your
>>> situation, and the dog. I know we haven't discussed this in awhile, and I
>>> would love to hear from each of you about your dog day memories. I'd love
>>> to hear about your memories with your current dog, or a previous dog that
>>> really stood out, and I would especially like to hear those of you who've
>>> attended more than one school, how were your different dog days similar
>>> and how were they different.
>>>
>>> Since this thread could get long and crowded, let's try and post all of
>>> our individual stories in one message each, and if we respond to people,
>>> let's try and respond to more than one person per message. That'll help
>>> keep this thread from totally cluttering the list.
>>>
>>> I'll start with my story.
>>>
>>> May 24 of 2010, I went to guide dogs for the blind's Oregon campus to
>>> receive my first guide. I told GDB that I wanted a yellow dog, because I
>>> can see lighter colors better, and I wanted to see my dog's face. I was
>>> the only first timer in my class, and the youngest by 30 years. :-) After
>>> lunch, they brought the entire class into a room and read the names of
>>> our dogs, colors and breeds, for each class member. They told me that I
>>> would receive a female yellow lab named Stockard. I thought, Stockard,
>>> Stockard, where did that name come from! It struck me as a weird name,
>>> and I didn't know if I liked it at first. We went back to our rooms, and
>>> while I waited I googled the name Stockard and discovered the actress
>>> Stockard Channing, and I figured my dog was named after her, so I though
>>> that was cool. I waited for ever! I was the last person to receive my
>>> dog, and while I waited, I called all my family and friends to update
>>> them. Finally, it was my turn. I went down to the instructor's office and
>>> handed over my leash. The instructor went away and came back with my dog!
>>> She handed me the leash, and I could feel Stockard wiggling around on the
>>> end. :-) The first thing I felt was Stockard's soft, long ears. She
>>> almost immediately gave me her belly to scratch, and I rubbed it while
>>> the instructors told me her birthday, parents, and described her for me.
>>> I thought she was beautiful, and it only took me half a second to love
>>> the name. /grins/ I took her back to my room and sat on the floor with
>>> her, and the rest is history.
>>>
>>> I can't wait to hear the rest of you all's stories!
>>> Laurel and Stockard
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nagdu mailing list
>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> nagdu:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/joltingjacksandefur%40gmail.com
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 15:19:15 -0500
> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
> Message-ID: <F05562A739E44522915C23CCCAA1CA64 at robert9999b7cf>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> 	reply-type=original
>
> My goodness Laurle
> \
>
>
>
> I like that name Laurel! RJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Laurel and Stockard" <laurel.stockard at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 3:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
>
>
>> Craig, thanks for the wonderful link! R.J., if you continue to read my
>> original message, I describe my dog day further down in my post. I'm sorry
>>
>> my post is so long. :-) Hope that helps. :-)
>> Laurel and Stockard
>> On Dec 12, 2013, at 2:04 PM, RJ Sandefur <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Laurel, What was it like for you getting your first dog? RJ
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurel and Stockard"
>>> <laurel.stockard at gmail.com>
>>> To: "the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 2:56 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] dog day stories
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> I'm usually a list lurker, but a discussion we're having on another list
>>>>
>>>> prompted me to start the same discussion here.
>>>>
>>>> I know dog day experiences are different depending on the school, your
>>>> situation, and the dog. I know we haven't discussed this in awhile, and
>>>>
>>>> I would love to hear from each of you about your dog day memories. I'd
>>>> love to hear about your memories with your current dog, or a previous
>>>> dog that really stood out, and I would especially like to hear those of
>>>>
>>>> you who've attended more than one school, how were your different dog
>>>> days similar and how were they different.
>>>>
>>>> Since this thread could get long and crowded, let's try and post all of
>>>>
>>>> our individual stories in one message each, and if we respond to people,
>>>>
>>>> let's try and respond to more than one person per message. That'll help
>>>>
>>>> keep this thread from totally cluttering the list.
>>>>
>>>> I'll start with my story.
>>>>
>>>> May 24 of 2010, I went to guide dogs for the blind's Oregon campus to
>>>> receive my first guide. I told GDB that I wanted a yellow dog, because I
>>>>
>>>> can see lighter colors better, and I wanted to see my dog's face. I was
>>>>
>>>> the only first timer in my class, and the youngest by 30 years. :-)
>>>> After lunch, they brought the entire class into a room and read the
>>>> names of our dogs, colors and breeds, for each class member. They told
>>>> me that I would receive a female yellow lab named Stockard. I thought,
>>>> Stockard, Stockard, where did that name come from! It struck me as a
>>>> weird name, and I didn't know if I liked it at first. We went back to
>>>> our rooms, and while I waited I googled the name Stockard and discovered
>>>>
>>>> the actress Stockard Channing, and I figured my dog was named after her,
>>>>
>>>> so I though that was cool. I waited for ever! I was the last person to
>>>> receive my dog, and while I waited, I called all my family and friends
>>>> to update them. Finally, it was my turn. I went down to the instructor's
>>>>
>>>> office and handed over my leash. The instructor went away and came back
>>>>
>>>> with my dog! She handed me the leash, and I could feel Stockard wiggling
>>>>
>>>> around on the end. :-) The first thing I felt was Stockard's soft, long
>>>>
>>>> ears. She almost immediately gave me her belly to scratch, and I rubbed
>>>>
>>>> it while the instructors told me her birthday, parents, and described
>>>> her for me. I thought she was beautiful, and it only took me half a
>>>> second to love the name. /grins/ I took her back to my room and sat on
>>>> the floor with her, and the rest is history.
>>>>
>>>> I can't wait to hear the rest of you all's stories!
>>>> Laurel and Stockard
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> nagdu:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/joltingjacksandefur%40gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 17:00:26 -0500
> From: "Chantel Cuddemi" <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
> 	Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
> Message-ID: <51462BE4A0574A9B80AC445AB291A83B at OwnerPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi all,
>
> On February eighth, 2012, my trainer Bonnie at Pilot Dogs brought Motley in
> to my room, saying, this is Motley.
>
> She described his color, what breed he was, and his gender.
>
> Motley and I bonded the moment he was given to me.
>
> I look forward to hearing the other stories!
>
> Chantel and Motley.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laurel and
> Stockard
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 2:56 PM
> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
> Subject: [nagdu] dog day stories
>
> Hi all,
> I'm usually a list lurker, but a discussion we're having on another list
> prompted me to start the same discussion here.
>
> I know dog day experiences are different depending on the school, your
> situation, and the dog. I know we haven't discussed this in awhile, and I
> would love to hear from each of you about your dog day memories. I'd love
> to
> hear about your memories with your current dog, or a previous dog that
> really stood out, and I would especially like to hear those of you who've
> attended more than one school, how were your different dog days similar and
> how were they different.
>
> Since this thread could get long and crowded, let's try and post all of our
> individual stories in one message each, and if we respond to people, let's
> try and respond to more than one person per message. That'll help keep this
> thread from totally cluttering the list.
>
> I'll start with my story.
>
> May 24 of 2010, I went to guide dogs for the blind's Oregon campus to
> receive my first guide. I told GDB that I wanted a yellow dog, because I
> can
> see lighter colors better, and I wanted to see my dog's face. I was the
> only
> first timer in my class, and the youngest by 30 years. :-) After lunch,
> they
> brought the entire class into a room and read the names of our dogs, colors
> and breeds, for each class member. They told me that I would receive a
> female yellow lab named Stockard. I thought, Stockard, Stockard, where did
> that name come from! It struck me as a weird name, and I didn't know if I
> liked it at first. We went back to our rooms, and while I waited I googled
> the name Stockard and discovered the actress Stockard Channing, and I
> figured my dog was named after her, so I though that was cool. I waited for
> ever! I was the last person to receive my dog, and while I waited, I called
> all my family and friends to update them. Finally, it was my turn. I went
> down to the instructor's office and handed over my leash. The instructor
> went away and came back with my dog! She handed me the leash, and I could
> feel Stockard wiggling around on the end. :-) The first thing I felt was
> Stockard's soft, long ears. She almost immediately gave me her belly to
> scratch, and I rubbed it while the instructors told me her birthday,
> parents, and described her for me. I thought she was beautiful, and it only
> took me half a second to love the name. /grins/ I took her back to my room
> and sat on the floor with her, and the rest is history.
>
>
> I can't wait to hear the rest of you all's stories!
> Laurel and Stockard
> _______________________________________________
> nagdu mailing list
> nagdu at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> nagdu:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/jawsgirl87%40gmail.com
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 17:14:02 -0500
> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
> Message-ID: <025DA004D08044BCAA0219915C3A9AF8 at robert9999b7cf>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> 	reply-type=original
>
> I've seen you work Motley Chantel, and you're a t
> dearn good handeller! RJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chantel Cuddemi" <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 5:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> On February eighth, 2012, my trainer Bonnie at Pilot Dogs brought Motley
>> in
>> to my room, saying, this is Motley.
>>
>> She described his color, what breed he was, and his gender.
>>
>> Motley and I bonded the moment he was given to me.
>>
>> I look forward to hearing the other stories!
>>
>> Chantel and Motley.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laurel and
>> Stockard
>> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 2:56 PM
>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
>> Subject: [nagdu] dog day stories
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I'm usually a list lurker, but a discussion we're having on another list
>> prompted me to start the same discussion here.
>>
>> I know dog day experiences are different depending on the school, your
>> situation, and the dog. I know we haven't discussed this in awhile, and I
>> would love to hear from each of you about your dog day memories. I'd love
>>
>> to
>> hear about your memories with your current dog, or a previous dog that
>> really stood out, and I would especially like to hear those of you who've
>> attended more than one school, how were your different dog days similar
>> and
>> how were they different.
>>
>> Since this thread could get long and crowded, let's try and post all of
>> our
>> individual stories in one message each, and if we respond to people,
>> let's
>> try and respond to more than one person per message. That'll help keep
>> this
>> thread from totally cluttering the list.
>>
>> I'll start with my story.
>>
>> May 24 of 2010, I went to guide dogs for the blind's Oregon campus to
>> receive my first guide. I told GDB that I wanted a yellow dog, because I
>> can
>> see lighter colors better, and I wanted to see my dog's face. I was the
>> only
>> first timer in my class, and the youngest by 30 years. :-) After lunch,
>> they
>> brought the entire class into a room and read the names of our dogs,
>> colors
>> and breeds, for each class member. They told me that I would receive a
>> female yellow lab named Stockard. I thought, Stockard, Stockard, where
>> did
>> that name come from! It struck me as a weird name, and I didn't know if I
>> liked it at first. We went back to our rooms, and while I waited I
>> googled
>> the name Stockard and discovered the actress Stockard Channing, and I
>> figured my dog was named after her, so I though that was cool. I waited
>> for
>> ever! I was the last person to receive my dog, and while I waited, I
>> called
>> all my family and friends to update them. Finally, it was my turn. I went
>> down to the instructor's office and handed over my leash. The instructor
>> went away and came back with my dog! She handed me the leash, and I could
>> feel Stockard wiggling around on the end. :-) The first thing I felt was
>> Stockard's soft, long ears. She almost immediately gave me her belly to
>> scratch, and I rubbed it while the instructors told me her birthday,
>> parents, and described her for me. I thought she was beautiful, and it
>> only
>> took me half a second to love the name. /grins/ I took her back to my
>> room
>> and sat on the floor with her, and the rest is history.
>>
>>
>> I can't wait to hear the rest of you all's stories!
>> Laurel and Stockard
>> _______________________________________________
>> nagdu mailing list
>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> nagdu:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/jawsgirl87%40gmail.com
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 08:49:08 +1000
> From: Stephanie  <naturelovingmom at gmail.com>
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
> Message-ID: <20131212224908.naturelovingmom at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> In March this year, I went for guide dog training here in Australia. I'd
> never had a dog, not even as a pet, so this was a huge event for me.
> They bought Gypsy to me, and the first thing she did was look to the door. I
> patted her and tried to play with her, but she just kept looking at the
> door. I remember thinking "I'd patted you, I'd played with you, now what the
> hell do I do". I had no idea since I'd never had a dog. After a while, Gypsy
> started to come back to me. Now almost 12 months on, There's no going back
> for me.
> Steph
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chantel Cuddemi <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Nagdu Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Friday, December 13, 2013 8:02 am
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> On February eighth, 2012, my trainer Bonnie at Pilot Dogs brought Motley
>> in
>> to my room, saying, this is Motley.
>>
>> She described his color, what breed he was, and his gender.
>>
>> Motley and I bonded the moment he was given to me.
>>
>> I look forward to hearing the other stories!
>>
>> Chantel and Motley.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laurel and
>> Stockard
>> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 2:56 PM
>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
>> Subject: [nagdu] dog day stories
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I'm usually a list lurker, but a discussion we're having on another list
>> prompted me to start the same discussion here.
>>
>> I know dog day experiences are different depending on the school, your
>> situation, and the dog. I know we haven't discussed this in awhile, and I
>> would love to hear from each of you about your dog day memories. I'd love
>> to
>> hear about your memories with your current dog, or a previous dog that
>> really stood out, and I would especially like to hear those of you who've
>> attended more than one school, how were your different dog days similar
>> and
>> how were they different.
>>
>> Since this thread could get long and crowded, let's try and post all of
>> our
>> individual stories in one message each, and if we respond to people,
>> let's
>> try and respond to more than one person per message. That'll help keep
>> this
>> thread from totally cluttering the list.
>>
>> I'll start with my story.
>>
>> May 24 of 2010, I went to guide dogs for the blind's Oregon campus to
>> receive my first guide. I told GDB that I wanted a yellow dog, because I
>> can
>> see lighter colors better, and I wanted to see my dog's face. I was the
>> only
>> first timer in my class, and the youngest by 30 years. :-) After lunch,
>> they
>> brought the entire class into a room and read the names of our dogs,
>> colors
>> and breeds, for each class member. They told me that I would receive a
>> female yellow lab named Stockard. I thought, Stockard, Stockard, where
>> did
>> that name come from! It struck me as a weird name, and I didn't know if I
>> liked it at first. We went back to our rooms, and while I waited I
>> googled
>> the name Stockard and discovered the actress Stockard Channing, and I
>> figured my dog was named after her, so I though that was cool. I waited
>> for
>> ever! I was the last person to receive my dog, and while I waited, I
>> called
>> all my family and friends to update them. Finally, it was my turn. I went
>> down to the instructor's office and handed over my leash. The instructor
>> went away and came back with my dog! She handed me the leash, and I could
>> feel Stockard wiggling around on the end. :-) The first thing I felt was
>> Stockard's soft, long ears. She almost immediately gave me her belly to
>> scratch, and I rubbed it while the instructors told me her birthday,
>> parents, and described her for me. I thought she was beautiful, and it
>> only
>> took me half a second to love the name. /grins/ I took her back to my
>> room
>> and sat on the floor with her, and the rest is history.
>>
>>
>> I can't wait to hear the rest of you all's stories!
>> Laurel and Stockard
>> _______________________________________________
>> nagdu mailing list
>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> nagdu:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/jawsgirl87%40gmail.com
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nagdu mailing list
>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> nagdu:
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 20:38:11 -0500
> From: Raven Tolliver <ravend729 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
> Message-ID:
> 	<CACQ+kouS7GAs_6QCc+r46ks-3jXs1Fz21nXR-4D-6iXz3WNFVQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> I received the Golden Guy in early June of last year. I was very
> nervous because I had never had a dog in my life. I was ecstatic
> because I was getting a golden retriever, which is exactly what I
> requested.
> After the meeting in the lecture hall, I fell asleep in my room while
> waiting.
> My instructor knocked on the door, and I flew out of bed. She brought
> my dog in, and he went for the crate and started fiddling with the
> latch.
> The biggest moment was when my instructor unclipped her leash from his
> collar, and I clipped my leash in its place.
> When she left, I put on some music, petted the Golden Guy and walked
> around with him a bit.
> We then fed and park our dogs.
> Afterward, we all went out into the lobby and had our dogs sit under
> our chairs. The Golden Guy was not having any of it. He would not stay
> down; he kept trying to play with the dog beside us; and he just kept
> standing up whenever I finally got him to sit. My instructor had to
> send us up to dinner first because he just would not settle. And if I
> could add in a sidenote here, that was pretty stupid. If he wasn't
> settling downstairs in the lobby, what would make him settle upstairs
> in the dining hall? She should have shown me how to keep him settled.
> Anyway, when I got upstairs, he still would not stay down. He kept
> standing up, and I thought I would never get through dinner.
> That night during lecture, he still did not want to lay down, and when
> he did, he had crawled under the chair and laid down behind my chair.
> My instructor was pretty useless in showing me ways or giving me
> advice to keep my dog settled. I mean, she gave me a lot of good
> advice and instruction concerning guide work, but it would have been
> nice on learning different handling and obedience techniques,
> especially things other than give him a correction when he doesn't
> listen, which I received from returning grads as well. Corrections do
> not work in this situation because all a correction communicates is
> "stop it." The correction does not tell the dog what it should be
> doing instead. Also, what She could have showed me is to use luring
> with treats, which works with many dogs, and perfectly for dogs who
> have had previous obedience training. Too bad I didn't learn this
> until I started learning about dog psychology and dog training
> techniques.
>
> On 12/12/13, Stephanie <naturelovingmom at gmail.com> wrote:
>> In March this year, I went for guide dog training here in Australia. I'd
>> never had a dog, not even as a pet, so this was a huge event for me.
>> They bought Gypsy to me, and the first thing she did was look to the door.
>> I
>> patted her and tried to play with her, but she just kept looking at the
>> door. I remember thinking "I'd patted you, I'd played with you, now what
>> the
>> hell do I do". I had no idea since I'd never had a dog. After a while,
>> Gypsy
>> started to come back to me. Now almost 12 months on, There's no going
>> back
>> for me.
>> Steph
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Chantel Cuddemi <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'Nagdu Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Friday, December 13, 2013 8:02 am
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> On February eighth, 2012, my trainer Bonnie at Pilot Dogs brought Motley
>>> in
>>> to my room, saying, this is Motley.
>>>
>>> She described his color, what breed he was, and his gender.
>>>
>>> Motley and I bonded the moment he was given to me.
>>>
>>> I look forward to hearing the other stories!
>>>
>>> Chantel and Motley.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laurel and
>>> Stockard
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 2:56 PM
>>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
>>> Subject: [nagdu] dog day stories
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I'm usually a list lurker, but a discussion we're having on another list
>>> prompted me to start the same discussion here.
>>>
>>> I know dog day experiences are different depending on the school, your
>>> situation, and the dog. I know we haven't discussed this in awhile, and
>>> I
>>> would love to hear from each of you about your dog day memories. I'd
>>> love
>>> to
>>> hear about your memories with your current dog, or a previous dog that
>>> really stood out, and I would especially like to hear those of you
>>> who've
>>> attended more than one school, how were your different dog days similar
>>> and
>>> how were they different.
>>>
>>> Since this thread could get long and crowded, let's try and post all of
>>> our
>>> individual stories in one message each, and if we respond to people,
>>> let's
>>> try and respond to more than one person per message. That'll help keep
>>> this
>>> thread from totally cluttering the list.
>>>
>>> I'll start with my story.
>>>
>>> May 24 of 2010, I went to guide dogs for the blind's Oregon campus to
>>> receive my first guide. I told GDB that I wanted a yellow dog, because I
>>> can
>>> see lighter colors better, and I wanted to see my dog's face. I was the
>>> only
>>> first timer in my class, and the youngest by 30 years. :-) After lunch,
>>> they
>>> brought the entire class into a room and read the names of our dogs,
>>> colors
>>> and breeds, for each class member. They told me that I would receive a
>>> female yellow lab named Stockard. I thought, Stockard, Stockard, where
>>> did
>>> that name come from! It struck me as a weird name, and I didn't know if
>>> I
>>> liked it at first. We went back to our rooms, and while I waited I
>>> googled
>>> the name Stockard and discovered the actress Stockard Channing, and I
>>> figured my dog was named after her, so I though that was cool. I waited
>>> for
>>> ever! I was the last person to receive my dog, and while I waited, I
>>> called
>>> all my family and friends to update them. Finally, it was my turn. I
>>> went
>>> down to the instructor's office and handed over my leash. The instructor
>>> went away and came back with my dog! She handed me the leash, and I
>>> could
>>> feel Stockard wiggling around on the end. :-) The first thing I felt was
>>> Stockard's soft, long ears. She almost immediately gave me her belly to
>>> scratch, and I rubbed it while the instructors told me her birthday,
>>> parents, and described her for me. I thought she was beautiful, and it
>>> only
>>> took me half a second to love the name. /grins/ I took her back to my
>>> room
>>> and sat on the floor with her, and the rest is history.
>>>
>>>
>>> I can't wait to hear the rest of you all's stories!
>>> Laurel and Stockard
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nagdu mailing list
>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> nagdu:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/jawsgirl87%40gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nagdu mailing list
>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> nagdu:
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>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
> --
> Raven
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:08:14 -0500
> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
> Message-ID: <FB9DACC1A5974F35922ED5F58D2A79E8 at yourec0540d030>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> 	reply-type=original
>
> I've only attended only Pilot. The most interesting thing they do on dog day
>
> is bring in your dogs with dog odor. They all need baths. Pilot believes
> that there is no way to get familiar with your dog than to bathe it. So, we
>
> all go to our rooms and wait for our dogs. We play and bond with them until
>
> its time to take them down to the batheing station. We then bathe and dry
> our dogs. When they dry or in our case, it was hot so we took them out for a
>
> short working sesssion. I'll never forget our dog day because a woman who
> obviously didn't know better passed me in the hallway. She could see a
> little and was picking on me because I was wearing an old tank, shorts and
> crocs. She was wearing a dress and heals. To go bathe her dog! Who got the
> last laugh on that one! Of course, everyone knows that dogs spread much more
>
> water around than could have actually been on them and wearing nice clothes
>
> while doing it is pretty much a lost cause!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Laurel and Stockard" <laurel.stockard at gmail.com>
> To: "the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 2:56 PM
> Subject: [nagdu] dog day stories
>
>
>> Hi all,
>> I'm usually a list lurker, but a discussion we're having on another list
>> prompted me to start the same discussion here.
>>
>> I know dog day experiences are different depending on the school, your
>> situation, and the dog. I know we haven't discussed this in awhile, and I
>>
>> would love to hear from each of you about your dog day memories. I'd love
>>
>> to hear about your memories with your current dog, or a previous dog that
>>
>> really stood out, and I would especially like to hear those of you who've
>>
>> attended more than one school, how were your different dog days similar
>> and how were they different.
>>
>> Since this thread could get long and crowded, let's try and post all of
>> our individual stories in one message each, and if we respond to people,
>> let's try and respond to more than one person per message. That'll help
>> keep this thread from totally cluttering the list.
>>
>> I'll start with my story.
>>
>> May 24 of 2010, I went to guide dogs for the blind's Oregon campus to
>> receive my first guide. I told GDB that I wanted a yellow dog, because I
>> can see lighter colors better, and I wanted to see my dog's face. I was
>> the only first timer in my class, and the youngest by 30 years. :-) After
>>
>> lunch, they brought the entire class into a room and read the names of our
>>
>> dogs, colors and breeds, for each class member. They told me that I would
>>
>> receive a female yellow lab named Stockard. I thought, Stockard, Stockard,
>>
>> where did that name come from! It struck me as a weird name, and I didn't
>>
>> know if I liked it at first. We went back to our rooms, and while I waited
>>
>> I googled the name Stockard and discovered the actress Stockard Channing,
>>
>> and I figured my dog was named after her, so I though that was cool. I
>> waited for ever! I was the last person to receive my dog, and while I
>> waited, I called all my family and friends to update them. Finally, it was
>>
>> my turn. I went down to the instructor's office and handed over my leash.
>>
>> The instructor went away and came back with my dog! She handed me the
>> leash, and I could feel Stockard wiggling around on the end. :-) The first
>>
>> thing I felt was Stockard's soft, long ears. She almost immediately gave
>> me her belly to scratch, and I rubbed it while the instructors told me her
>>
>> birthday, parents, and described her for me. I thought she was beautiful,
>>
>> and it only took me half a second to love the name. /grins/ I took her
>> back to my room and sat on the floor with her, and the rest is history.
>>
>> I can't wait to hear the rest of you all's stories!
>> Laurel and Stockard
>> _______________________________________________
>> nagdu mailing list
>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> nagdu:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/lkeeler%40comcast.net
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:11:42 -0500
> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
> Message-ID: <B003A031E7814A6FA87813EE7DB1A3CB at yourec0540d030>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> 	reply-type=original
>
> Bonnie was my trainer as well. She described Holly and left us for awhile.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chantel Cuddemi" <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 5:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> On February eighth, 2012, my trainer Bonnie at Pilot Dogs brought Motley
>> in
>> to my room, saying, this is Motley.
>>
>> She described his color, what breed he was, and his gender.
>>
>> Motley and I bonded the moment he was given to me.
>>
>> I look forward to hearing the other stories!
>>
>> Chantel and Motley.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laurel and
>> Stockard
>> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 2:56 PM
>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
>> Subject: [nagdu] dog day stories
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I'm usually a list lurker, but a discussion we're having on another list
>> prompted me to start the same discussion here.
>>
>> I know dog day experiences are different depending on the school, your
>> situation, and the dog. I know we haven't discussed this in awhile, and I
>> would love to hear from each of you about your dog day memories. I'd love
>>
>> to
>> hear about your memories with your current dog, or a previous dog that
>> really stood out, and I would especially like to hear those of you who've
>> attended more than one school, how were your different dog days similar
>> and
>> how were they different.
>>
>> Since this thread could get long and crowded, let's try and post all of
>> our
>> individual stories in one message each, and if we respond to people,
>> let's
>> try and respond to more than one person per message. That'll help keep
>> this
>> thread from totally cluttering the list.
>>
>> I'll start with my story.
>>
>> May 24 of 2010, I went to guide dogs for the blind's Oregon campus to
>> receive my first guide. I told GDB that I wanted a yellow dog, because I
>> can
>> see lighter colors better, and I wanted to see my dog's face. I was the
>> only
>> first timer in my class, and the youngest by 30 years. :-) After lunch,
>> they
>> brought the entire class into a room and read the names of our dogs,
>> colors
>> and breeds, for each class member. They told me that I would receive a
>> female yellow lab named Stockard. I thought, Stockard, Stockard, where
>> did
>> that name come from! It struck me as a weird name, and I didn't know if I
>> liked it at first. We went back to our rooms, and while I waited I
>> googled
>> the name Stockard and discovered the actress Stockard Channing, and I
>> figured my dog was named after her, so I though that was cool. I waited
>> for
>> ever! I was the last person to receive my dog, and while I waited, I
>> called
>> all my family and friends to update them. Finally, it was my turn. I went
>> down to the instructor's office and handed over my leash. The instructor
>> went away and came back with my dog! She handed me the leash, and I could
>> feel Stockard wiggling around on the end. :-) The first thing I felt was
>> Stockard's soft, long ears. She almost immediately gave me her belly to
>> scratch, and I rubbed it while the instructors told me her birthday,
>> parents, and described her for me. I thought she was beautiful, and it
>> only
>> took me half a second to love the name. /grins/ I took her back to my
>> room
>> and sat on the floor with her, and the rest is history.
>>
>>
>> I can't wait to hear the rest of you all's stories!
>> Laurel and Stockard
>> _______________________________________________
>> nagdu mailing list
>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> nagdu:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/jawsgirl87%40gmail.com
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:19:55 -0500
> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
> Message-ID: <76DC70AFC4D942A59FF490C69ACAC60E at Delllaptop>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> 	reply-type=response
>
> did youwash the dogs, or did you just get soaked? :-)
>
>
> There are none so blind as those who will not see
>
> William and LD Lynard
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:24:13 -0500
> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
> Message-ID: <F158B164C3EC478D84460BF12D599D3A at yourec0540d030>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> 	reply-type=response
>
> I washed my dog, me, the floor and the guy next to me! As well as Bonnie.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 9:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
>
>
>> did youwash the dogs, or did you just get soaked? :-)
>>
>> There are none so blind as those who will not see
>>
>> William and LD Lynard
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:16:33 -0500
> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
> Message-ID: <4B048CE76CEB40E8B52DF693FAE87BEC at yourec0540d030>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> 	reply-type=original
>
> Where in Australia are you? What school did you use? I think that at first,
>
> some dogs are still bonded to our trainers and it takes them a minute to
> warm up. With Holly, even though we bonded quickly I couldn't have snuck out
>
> of that place. Holly would always look in Bonnie's room when we passed.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephanie" <naturelovingmom at gmail.com>
> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 5:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
>
>
>> In March this year, I went for guide dog training here in Australia. I'd
>> never had a dog, not even as a pet, so this was a huge event for me.
>> They bought Gypsy to me, and the first thing she did was look to the door.
>>
>> I patted her and tried to play with her, but she just kept looking at the
>>
>> door. I remember thinking "I'd patted you, I'd played with you, now what
>> the hell do I do". I had no idea since I'd never had a dog. After a while,
>>
>> Gypsy started to come back to me. Now almost 12 months on, There's no
>> going back for me.
>> Steph
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Chantel Cuddemi <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'Nagdu Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Friday, December 13, 2013 8:02 am
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> On February eighth, 2012, my trainer Bonnie at Pilot Dogs brought Motley
>>>
>>> in
>>> to my room, saying, this is Motley.
>>>
>>> She described his color, what breed he was, and his gender.
>>>
>>> Motley and I bonded the moment he was given to me.
>>>
>>> I look forward to hearing the other stories!
>>>
>>> Chantel and Motley.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laurel and
>>> Stockard
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 2:56 PM
>>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
>>> Subject: [nagdu] dog day stories
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I'm usually a list lurker, but a discussion we're having on another list
>>> prompted me to start the same discussion here.
>>>
>>> I know dog day experiences are different depending on the school, your
>>> situation, and the dog. I know we haven't discussed this in awhile, and
>>> I
>>> would love to hear from each of you about your dog day memories. I'd love
>>>
>>> to
>>> hear about your memories with your current dog, or a previous dog that
>>> really stood out, and I would especially like to hear those of you
>>> who've
>>> attended more than one school, how were your different dog days similar
>>> and
>>> how were they different.
>>>
>>> Since this thread could get long and crowded, let's try and post all of
>>> our
>>> individual stories in one message each, and if we respond to people,
>>> let's
>>> try and respond to more than one person per message. That'll help keep
>>> this
>>> thread from totally cluttering the list.
>>>
>>> I'll start with my story.
>>>
>>> May 24 of 2010, I went to guide dogs for the blind's Oregon campus to
>>> receive my first guide. I told GDB that I wanted a yellow dog, because I
>>>
>>> can
>>> see lighter colors better, and I wanted to see my dog's face. I was the
>>> only
>>> first timer in my class, and the youngest by 30 years. :-) After lunch,
>>> they
>>> brought the entire class into a room and read the names of our dogs,
>>> colors
>>> and breeds, for each class member. They told me that I would receive a
>>> female yellow lab named Stockard. I thought, Stockard, Stockard, where
>>> did
>>> that name come from! It struck me as a weird name, and I didn't know if
>>> I
>>> liked it at first. We went back to our rooms, and while I waited I
>>> googled
>>> the name Stockard and discovered the actress Stockard Channing, and I
>>> figured my dog was named after her, so I though that was cool. I waited
>>> for
>>> ever! I was the last person to receive my dog, and while I waited, I
>>> called
>>> all my family and friends to update them. Finally, it was my turn. I
>>> went
>>> down to the instructor's office and handed over my leash. The instructor
>>> went away and came back with my dog! She handed me the leash, and I
>>> could
>>> feel Stockard wiggling around on the end. :-) The first thing I felt was
>>> Stockard's soft, long ears. She almost immediately gave me her belly to
>>> scratch, and I rubbed it while the instructors told me her birthday,
>>> parents, and described her for me. I thought she was beautiful, and it
>>> only
>>> took me half a second to love the name. /grins/ I took her back to my
>>> room
>>> and sat on the floor with her, and the rest is history.
>>>
>>>
>>> I can't wait to hear the rest of you all's stories!
>>> Laurel and Stockard
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nagdu mailing list
>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> nagdu:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/jawsgirl87%40gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 20:58:24 -0600
> From: Laurel and Stockard <laurel.stockard at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nagdu] incredibly sad story and a reminder, dogs, yards and
> 	poison
> Message-ID: <BCF5B1E9-1BCB-44D9-9207-FC10DD51F15C at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hi all,
> I'll try and keep this short. Tonight I saw a story on facebook involving a
> few dogs in the service dog community. With out going into a lot of details
> on who these dogs were or what group they are affiliated with, they got out
> of their family's yard and got into the neighbor's yard, ate a bag of animal
> poison and had to be put down.
> Guys, if you have yards, or are traveling to visit friends/family this
> holiday season, please, please ... please ... double and triple check that
> your yard, or that of a family member/friend, is safe and that all gates are
> propperly latched and closed before you let your dog out. If you need
> sighted help to ensure the safety of a yard, ask for it. It's seriously that
> important.
> Secondly, please double and triple check that your family member/friend does
> not have any poison in the yard, and if you have poison in your yard or
> house, please, check and make sure that it's locked away safely where no dog
> can get it.
> I know most of us probably do both of these things anyways, but this story
> is a tragic reminder to us of why it's critically important that we check
> these things.
> I hope I never have to read another heartbreaking story like that again on
> facebook about dogs associated with our community being involved in a tragic
> accident like this. I'm sure it was an accident, and that the people who had
> these dogs feel horrible, but yeah.
> Please, be mindful of yards, gates and animal poison, especially this time
> of year.
> Hug your dogs
> Laurel and Stockard
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 13:02:19 +1000
> From: Stephanie  <naturelovingmom at gmail.com>
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
> Message-ID: <20131213030219.naturelovingmom at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> I live im melbourne and went to guide dogs victoria.
> Steph
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Larry D. Keeler <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Friday, December 13, 2013 12:27 pm
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
>
>>
>>
>> Where in Australia are you? What school did you use? I think that at
>> first,
>> some dogs are still bonded to our trainers and it takes them a minute to
>> warm up. With Holly, even though we bonded quickly I couldn't have snuck
>> out
>> of that place. Holly would always look in Bonnie's room when we passed.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Stephanie" <naturelovingmom at gmail.com>
>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 5:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
>>
>>
>> > In March this year, I went for guide dog training here in Australia. I'd
>> >
>> > never had a dog, not even as a pet, so this was a huge event for me.
>> > They bought Gypsy to me, and the first thing she did was look to the
>> > door.
>> > I patted her and tried to play with her, but she just kept looking at
>> > the
>> > door. I remember thinking "I'd patted you, I'd played with you, now what
>> >
>> > the hell do I do". I had no idea since I'd never had a dog. After a
>> > while,
>> > Gypsy started to come back to me. Now almost 12 months on, There's no
>> > going back for me.
>> > Steph
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Chantel Cuddemi <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com>
>> > To: "'Nagdu Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> >
>> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> > Date: Friday, December 13, 2013 8:02 am
>> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> On February eighth, 2012, my trainer Bonnie at Pilot Dogs brought
>> >> Motley
>> >> in
>> >> to my room, saying, this is Motley.
>> >>
>> >> She described his color, what breed he was, and his gender.
>> >>
>> >> Motley and I bonded the moment he was given to me.
>> >>
>> >> I look forward to hearing the other stories!
>> >>
>> >> Chantel and Motley.
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laurel and
>> >> Stockard
>> >> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 2:56 PM
>> >> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
>> >> Subject: [nagdu] dog day stories
>> >>
>> >> Hi all,
>> >> I'm usually a list lurker, but a discussion we're having on another
>> >> list
>> >> prompted me to start the same discussion here.
>> >>
>> >> I know dog day experiences are different depending on the school, your
>> >> situation, and the dog. I know we haven't discussed this in awhile, and
>> >> I
>> >> would love to hear from each of you about your dog day memories. I'd
>> >> love
>> >> to
>> >> hear about your memories with your current dog, or a previous dog that
>> >> really stood out, and I would especially like to hear those of you
>> >> who've
>> >> attended more than one school, how were your different dog days similar
>> >>
>> >> and
>> >> how were they different.
>> >>
>> >> Since this thread could get long and crowded, let's try and post all of
>> >>
>> >> our
>> >> individual stories in one message each, and if we respond to people,
>> >> let's
>> >> try and respond to more than one person per message. That'll help keep
>> >>
>> >> this
>> >> thread from totally cluttering the list.
>> >>
>> >> I'll start with my story.
>> >>
>> >> May 24 of 2010, I went to guide dogs for the blind's Oregon campus to
>> >> receive my first guide. I told GDB that I wanted a yellow dog, because
>> >> I
>> >> can
>> >> see lighter colors better, and I wanted to see my dog's face. I was the
>> >>
>> >> only
>> >> first timer in my class, and the youngest by 30 years. :-) After lunch,
>> >>
>> >> they
>> >> brought the entire class into a room and read the names of our dogs,
>> >> colors
>> >> and breeds, for each class member. They told me that I would receive a
>> >> female yellow lab named Stockard. I thought, Stockard, Stockard, where
>> >>
>> >> did
>> >> that name come from! It struck me as a weird name, and I didn't know if
>> >> I
>> >> liked it at first. We went back to our rooms, and while I waited I
>> >> googled
>> >> the name Stockard and discovered the actress Stockard Channing, and I
>> >> figured my dog was named after her, so I though that was cool. I waited
>> >>
>> >> for
>> >> ever! I was the last person to receive my dog, and while I waited, I
>> >> called
>> >> all my family and friends to update them. Finally, it was my turn. I
>> >> went
>> >> down to the instructor's office and handed over my leash. The
>> >> instructor
>> >> went away and came back with my dog! She handed me the leash, and I
>> >> could
>> >> feel Stockard wiggling around on the end. :-) The first thing I felt
>> >> was
>> >> Stockard's soft, long ears. She almost immediately gave me her belly
>> >> to
>> >> scratch, and I rubbed it while the instructors told me her birthday,
>> >> parents, and described her for me. I thought she was beautiful, and it
>> >>
>> >> only
>> >> took me half a second to love the name. /grins/ I took her back to my
>> >> room
>> >> and sat on the floor with her, and the rest is history.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I can't wait to hear the rest of you all's stories!
>> >> Laurel and Stockard
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> nagdu mailing list
>> >> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>> >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> >> nagdu:
>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/jawsgirl87%40gmail.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
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>> >
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 22:16:00 -0500
> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
> Message-ID: <66198A4E1FB54B0DAD722AEF5364DDD4 at yourec0540d030>
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>
> My daughter was there in 2005 for the deaf olympics and braught back gold.
> I'm sort of familiar with the place in Perth because they do guide dogs and
>
> also a library service I sometimes use. Labradoodles were first bred down
> there but the perth school doesn't use them for some reason. Obviously, I
> use one and think she's great!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephanie" <naturelovingmom at gmail.com>
> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 10:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
>
>
>>I live im melbourne and went to guide dogs victoria.
>> Steph
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Larry D. Keeler <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Friday, December 13, 2013 12:27 pm
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Where in Australia are you? What school did you use? I think that at
>>> first,
>>> some dogs are still bonded to our trainers and it takes them a minute to
>>> warm up. With Holly, even though we bonded quickly I couldn't have snuck
>>>
>>> out
>>> of that place. Holly would always look in Bonnie's room when we passed.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Stephanie" <naturelovingmom at gmail.com>
>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 5:49 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
>>>
>>>
>>> > In March this year, I went for guide dog training here in Australia.
>>> > I'd
>>> > never had a dog, not even as a pet, so this was a huge event for me.
>>> > They bought Gypsy to me, and the first thing she did was look to the
>>> > door.
>>> > I patted her and tried to play with her, but she just kept looking at
>>> > the
>>> > door. I remember thinking "I'd patted you, I'd played with you, now
>>> > what
>>> > the hell do I do". I had no idea since I'd never had a dog. After a
>>> > while,
>>> > Gypsy started to come back to me. Now almost 12 months on, There's no
>>> > going back for me.
>>> > Steph
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: Chantel Cuddemi <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com>
>>> > To: "'Nagdu Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> > Users'"
>>> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> > Date: Friday, December 13, 2013 8:02 am
>>> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi all,
>>> >>
>>> >> On February eighth, 2012, my trainer Bonnie at Pilot Dogs brought
>>> >> Motley
>>> >> in
>>> >> to my room, saying, this is Motley.
>>> >>
>>> >> She described his color, what breed he was, and his gender.
>>> >>
>>> >> Motley and I bonded the moment he was given to me.
>>> >>
>>> >> I look forward to hearing the other stories!
>>> >>
>>> >> Chantel and Motley.
>>> >>
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laurel and
>>> >> Stockard
>>> >> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 2:56 PM
>>> >> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
>>> >> Subject: [nagdu] dog day stories
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi all,
>>> >> I'm usually a list lurker, but a discussion we're having on another
>>> >> list
>>> >> prompted me to start the same discussion here.
>>> >>
>>> >> I know dog day experiences are different depending on the school,
>>> >> your
>>> >> situation, and the dog. I know we haven't discussed this in awhile,
>>> >> and I
>>> >> would love to hear from each of you about your dog day memories. I'd
>>> >> love
>>> >> to
>>> >> hear about your memories with your current dog, or a previous dog
>>> >> that
>>> >> really stood out, and I would especially like to hear those of you
>>> >> who've
>>> >> attended more than one school, how were your different dog days
>>> >> similar
>>> >> and
>>> >> how were they different.
>>> >>
>>> >> Since this thread could get long and crowded, let's try and post all
>>> >> of
>>> >> our
>>> >> individual stories in one message each, and if we respond to people,
>>> >> let's
>>> >> try and respond to more than one person per message. That'll help
>>> >> keep
>>> >> this
>>> >> thread from totally cluttering the list.
>>> >>
>>> >> I'll start with my story.
>>> >>
>>> >> May 24 of 2010, I went to guide dogs for the blind's Oregon campus to
>>> >> receive my first guide. I told GDB that I wanted a yellow dog, because
>>> >>
>>> >> I
>>> >> can
>>> >> see lighter colors better, and I wanted to see my dog's face. I was
>>> >> the
>>> >> only
>>> >> first timer in my class, and the youngest by 30 years. :-) After
>>> >> lunch,
>>> >> they
>>> >> brought the entire class into a room and read the names of our dogs,
>>> >> colors
>>> >> and breeds, for each class member. They told me that I would receive
>>> >> a
>>> >> female yellow lab named Stockard. I thought, Stockard, Stockard,
>>> >> where
>>> >> did
>>> >> that name come from! It struck me as a weird name, and I didn't know
>>> >> if I
>>> >> liked it at first. We went back to our rooms, and while I waited I
>>> >> googled
>>> >> the name Stockard and discovered the actress Stockard Channing, and I
>>> >> figured my dog was named after her, so I though that was cool. I
>>> >> waited
>>> >> for
>>> >> ever! I was the last person to receive my dog, and while I waited, I
>>> >> called
>>> >> all my family and friends to update them. Finally, it was my turn. I
>>> >> went
>>> >> down to the instructor's office and handed over my leash. The
>>> >> instructor
>>> >> went away and came back with my dog! She handed me the leash, and I
>>> >> could
>>> >> feel Stockard wiggling around on the end. :-) The first thing I felt
>>> >> was
>>> >> Stockard's soft, long ears. She almost immediately gave me her belly
>>> >> to
>>> >> scratch, and I rubbed it while the instructors told me her birthday,
>>> >> parents, and described her for me. I thought she was beautiful, and
>>> >> it
>>> >> only
>>> >> took me half a second to love the name. /grins/ I took her back to my
>>> >> room
>>> >> and sat on the floor with her, and the rest is history.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I can't wait to hear the rest of you all's stories!
>>> >> Laurel and Stockard
>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>> >> nagdu mailing list
>>> >> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>> >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> >> nagdu:
>>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/jawsgirl87%40gmail.com
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>> >> nagdu mailing list
>>> >> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>> >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> >> nagdu:
>>> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/naturelovingmom%40gmail.com
>>> >
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>>>
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 13:36:22 +1000
> From: Stephanie  <naturelovingmom at gmail.com>
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
> Message-ID: <20131213033622.naturelovingmom at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> Our school thinks labs are the only breed worth training. They tried
> sheperds at one time, but my trainer said that they were extremely dominant
> dogs, and very hard to handle changes and the matching process with the
> handler because they were so attached to the trainer.
> They also tried goldens at one time, but apparently a lot of them had health
> issues.
> Steph
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Larry D. Keeler <lkeeler at comcast.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Friday, December 13, 2013 1:16 pm
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
>
>>
>>
>> My daughter was there in 2005 for the deaf olympics and braught back gold.
>>
>> I'm sort of familiar with the place in Perth because they do guide dogs
>> and
>> also a library service I sometimes use. Labradoodles were first bred down
>>
>> there but the perth school doesn't use them for some reason. Obviously, I
>>
>> use one and think she's great!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Stephanie" <naturelovingmom at gmail.com>
>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 10:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
>>
>>
>> >I live im melbourne and went to guide dogs victoria.
>> > Steph
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Larry D. Keeler <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> > Date: Friday, December 13, 2013 12:27 pm
>> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Where in Australia are you? What school did you use? I think that at
>> >> first,
>> >> some dogs are still bonded to our trainers and it takes them a minute
>> >> to
>> >> warm up. With Holly, even though we bonded quickly I couldn't have
>> >> snuck
>> >> out
>> >> of that place. Holly would always look in Bonnie's room when we
>> >> passed.
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Stephanie" <naturelovingmom at gmail.com>
>> >> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 5:49 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > In March this year, I went for guide dog training here in Australia.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'd
>> >> > never had a dog, not even as a pet, so this was a huge event for me.
>> >> > They bought Gypsy to me, and the first thing she did was look to the
>> >> >
>> >> > door.
>> >> > I patted her and tried to play with her, but she just kept looking at
>> >> >
>> >> > the
>> >> > door. I remember thinking "I'd patted you, I'd played with you, now
>> >> > what
>> >> > the hell do I do". I had no idea since I'd never had a dog. After a
>> >> > while,
>> >> > Gypsy started to come back to me. Now almost 12 months on, There's
>> >> > no
>> >> > going back for me.
>> >> > Steph
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: Chantel Cuddemi <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com>
>> >> > To: "'Nagdu Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> >> > Users'"
>> >> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> >> > Date: Friday, December 13, 2013 8:02 am
>> >> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog day stories
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi all,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On February eighth, 2012, my trainer Bonnie at Pilot Dogs brought
>> >> >> Motley
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> to my room, saying, this is Motley.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> She described his color, what breed he was, and his gender.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Motley and I bonded the moment he was given to me.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I look forward to hearing the other stories!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Chantel and Motley.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Laurel
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> Stockard
>> >> >> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 2:56 PM
>> >> >> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
>> >> >> Subject: [nagdu] dog day stories
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi all,
>> >> >> I'm usually a list lurker, but a discussion we're having on another
>> >> >>
>> >> >> list
>> >> >> prompted me to start the same discussion here.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I know dog day experiences are different depending on the school,
>> >> >> your
>> >> >> situation, and the dog. I know we haven't discussed this in awhile,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> and I
>> >> >> would love to hear from each of you about your dog day memories. I'd
>> >> >>
>> >> >> love
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> hear about your memories with your current dog, or a previous dog
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> really stood out, and I would especially like to hear those of you
>> >> >> who've
>> >> >> attended more than one school, how were your different dog days
>> >> >> similar
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> how were they different.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Since this thread could get long and crowded, let's try and post all
>> >> >>
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> our
>> >> >> individual stories in one message each, and if we respond to
>> >> >> people,
>> >> >> let's
>> >> >> try and respond to more than one person per message. That'll help
>> >> >> keep
>> >> >> this
>> >> >> thread from totally cluttering the list.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'll start with my story.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> May 24 of 2010, I went to guide dogs for the blind's Oregon campus
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> receive my first guide. I told GDB that I wanted a yellow dog,
>> >> >> because
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> can
>> >> >> see lighter colors better, and I wanted to see my dog's face. I was
>> >> >>
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> only
>> >> >> first timer in my class, and the youngest by 30 years. :-) After
>> >> >> lunch,
>> >> >> they
>> >> >> brought the entire class into a room and read the names of our
>> >> >> dogs,
>> >> >> colors
>> >> >> and breeds, for each class member. They told me that I would receive
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> female yellow lab named Stockard. I thought, Stockard, Stockard,
>> >> >> where
>> >> >> did
>> >> >> that name come from! It struck me as a weird name, and I didn't know
>> >> >>
>> >> >> if I
>> >> >> liked it at first. We went back to our rooms, and while I waited I
>> >> >> googled
>> >> >> the name Stockard and discovered the actress Stockard Channing, and
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> figured my dog was named after her, so I though that was cool. I
>> >> >> waited
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> ever! I was the last person to receive my dog, and while I waited,
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> called
>> >> >> all my family and friends to update them. Finally, it was my turn. I
>> >> >>
>> >> >> went
>> >> >> down to the instructor's office and handed over my leash. The
>> >> >> instructor
>> >> >> went away and came back with my dog! She handed me the leash, and I
>> >> >>
>> >> >> could
>> >> >> feel Stockard wiggling around on the end. :-) The first thing I felt
>> >> >>
>> >> >> was
>> >> >> Stockard's soft, long ears. She almost immediately gave me her belly
>> >> >>
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> scratch, and I rubbed it while the instructors told me her
>> >> >> birthday,
>> >> >> parents, and described her for me. I thought she was beautiful, and
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> only
>> >> >> took me half a second to love the name. /grins/ I took her back to
>> >> >> my
>> >> >> room
>> >> >> and sat on the floor with her, and the rest is history.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I can't wait to hear the rest of you all's stories!
>> >> >> Laurel and Stockard
>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> nagdu mailing list
>> >> >> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> >> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>> >> >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> nagdu:
>> >> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/jawsgirl87%40gmail.com
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> nagdu mailing list
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>> >>
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