[nagdu] Doggie breath

Fri Feb 1 01:11:08 UTC 2013

there are different flavors of tooth paste too, I always use mint.

Julie Phillipson
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Juanita Herrera" <juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggie breath

> Hey Mary,
> Usually I brush my dogs teeth daily, and once a week I give her a greenie 
> treat. That tends to keep her doggy breath under control.
> Juanita & Anise
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 31, 2013, at 4:43 PM, "Mary Wurtzel" <marywurtzel at att.net> wrote:
>
>>    Hello,
>> A change of subject.  How do people keep their dog's breath fresh besides
>> tooth brushing?  Thanks.
>> Mary
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:53 PM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Intelligent disobedience
>>
>> hello two questions here,
>> I couldn't find the spot that says reply to sender.
>> If we could see this on our messages, that would help me out, if the
>> address isn't in the address book.
>> yes the first time I did this with my dog on the subway I was told I got
>> pale.
>> They shared with me all would be ok.
>> they would be there and help out if the dog didn't do what he was
>> trained to do.
>> I was pleased, and still am pleased with my dog.
>> We are a swell match.
>>
>> Original message:
>>> I don't think it is something you necessarily test. At the Seeing Eye,
>>> they showed it to us by taking us to a subway platform and telling us
>>> to walk forward. Before the dog would get to the edge, it turned left
>>> or right and started up or down the track.
>>
>>> CL
>>
>>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 3:16 PM, Chasity Jackson wrote:
>>
>>>> What kind of places have you all used to test your dog's level of
>>>> intelligent disobedience?
>>
>>>> This topic has made me reflect on a past experience I had with my first
>>>> guide dog Vanda. We were on the college campus, and I was unaware of
>>>> the fact that they had dug up the pavement and there was a huge thirty
>>>> foot deep hole there. They were doing some construction outside. I was
>>>> trying to cross that driveway and she wouldn't let me, she was very
>>>> insistant on it too. She threw her body in front of me and then spun to
>>>> the right, as the hole was to our left. I had never seen her so
>>>> insistant on getting her way and doing it the way she wanted, and now I
>>>> know why.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 2:51 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Intelligent disobedience
>>
>>
>>>>> I think intelligent disobedience is more closely related to confidence
>>>>> level than anything else.  A dog basically needs to have the emotional
>>>>> ability to say no without crumbling.
>>
>>>>> Monty is what I'd call very high on the obedience chart.  He very much
>>>>> wants to please his people and will go above and beyond to accomplish
>>>>> this.  He is also decently high on the confidence scale.  If I want to
>>>>> do something dumb he will stick to his decision even after repeated
>>>>> attempts to get him to do things my way.  It doesn't seem to bother 
>>>>> him
>>>>> too much as long as I don't correct or raise my voice.  So I've 
>>>>> learned
>>>>> when we are standing on the corner and he is refusing to go some
>>>>> particular way I need to offer some different options until we can
>>>>> agree on one.
>>
>>>>> Belle is not a very obedient dog and is much lower in confidence. 
>>>>> With
>>>>> her I got one chance to figure it out.  If she stopped and I didn't
>>>>> take enough time to figure out what was going on and told her to
>>>>> continue, she would.  sometimes that was not so great for me.  I don't
>>>>> know that she's a good example though.  She was never really cut out 
>>>>> to
>>>>> be a guide dog.
>>
>>>>> Tia, my first dog from way back when, was obedient when it suited her,
>>>>> but was very confident.  She very much wanted to do things her way all
>>>>> the time.  If I suggested some dumb thing she'd wait ever so patiently
>>>>> until I saw things her way.  She never gave in to my stupidity.
>>
>>>>> It's an interesting discussion.  Thanks for bringing it up.
>>>>> Julie
>>
>>>>> On 1/30/2013 2:16 PM, Tami Jarvis wrote:
>>>>>> Tracy,
>>
>>>>>> That's something I've wondered about off and on about guide dogs in
>>>>>> general. They're all trained in intelligent disobedience... But how
>>>>>> stubborn is the average guide dog about applying that training?
>>
>>>>>> Mitzi is stubborn and has developed a number of ways of letting me 
>>>>>> know
>>
>>>>>> -- correction: trying to let me know -- that I am being a complete 
>>>>>> dumb
>>
>>>>>> head and would get myself hurt or done in if she didn't go to
>>>>>> extraordinary lengths to protect me from myself. /lol/ She is also 
>>>>>> very
>>
>>>>>> good at saying, "I told you so," once I figure it out.
>>
>>>>>> So now I'm really spoiled, of course. But as Mitzi moves toward the
>>>>>> 7-year mark, I do find myself wondering about that trait of hers. I
>>>>>> think the major reason I want to do some basic guide dog training 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> DD's pup Zay is because she is naturally a more obedient type of dog,
>>>>>> in the classical concept of obedience. Very eager to please, etc., 
>>>>>> etc.
>>
>>>>>> So I want to find out, using very safe places, if she can take the
>>>>>> basic skills and develop some general responsibility, then bump it up
>>>>>> to the next level and refuse to let me walk into the street or
>> something. Hm...
>>
>>>>>> My secret fear for the future is that I will inadvertently end up 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> a guide dog that does what I tell it to, just because I tell it to...
>>>>>> Probably because of all the people who take it upon themselves to
>>>>>> question Mitzi's fitness (or even ask smart questions in a sensible
>>>>>> way) as a guide, since they thought guide dogs are supposed to be
>>>>>> totally obedient. /lol/ I used to get really annoyed by that sort of
>>>>>> thing, but now I just stare at whoever might bring it up these days 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> horror, then burst out laughing. OMG! I would be soooo doomed! /lol/
>>
>>>>>> Tami
>>
>>>>>> On 01/30/2013 10:02 AM, Tracy Carcione wrote:
>>>>>>> Sometimes I get mixed up about exactly where I am, and tell Ben to 
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>> something dumb, like turn to cross the street before we get to the
>>>>>>> crosswalk.  He says No, and I insist, and he insists back, and, 
>>>>>>> after
>> 2
>>>>>>> or 3 times, I finally get it through my fat head that this time he 
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> right and I am wrong, and I tell him how great he is.
>>>>>>> I know all guide dogs do intelligent disobedience, but do they all
>>>>>>> insist when their silly user persists in wrong-headedness?  Or is 
>>>>>>> this
>> a
>>>>>>> special feature I need to remember to mention, when it comes time 
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> New Dog? Actually, I did just tell Seeing Eye to put it in my record
>>>>>>> that I need a dog who insists, but I wonder if it really goes 
>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>> saying.  But then, some things I think go without saying apparently
>> don't.
>>>>>>> So, do all guide dogs insist in disobedience, even in small things
>> like
>>>>>>> the right place to cross the street?
>>>>>>> Tracy
>>
>>
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