[nagdu] Doggie breath

rhonda cruz rhondaprincess at gmail.com
Fri Feb 1 04:49:27 UTC 2013 

 i think i have the chicken flavor.
 one.
 may loves it.


On Jan 31, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Julie Phillipson wrote:

> there are different flavors of tooth paste too, I always use mint.
> 
> Julie Phillipson
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Juanita Herrera" <juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 7:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Doggie breath
> 
> 
>> Hey Mary,
>> Usually I brush my dogs teeth daily, and once a week I give her a greenie treat. That tends to keep her doggy breath under control.
>> Juanita & Anise
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 31, 2013, at 4:43 PM, "Mary Wurtzel" <marywurtzel at att.net> wrote:
>> 
>>>   Hello,
>>> A change of subject.  How do people keep their dog's breath fresh besides
>>> tooth brushing?  Thanks.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:53 PM
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Intelligent disobedience
>>> 
>>> hello two questions here,
>>> I couldn't find the spot that says reply to sender.
>>> If we could see this on our messages, that would help me out, if the
>>> address isn't in the address book.
>>> yes the first time I did this with my dog on the subway I was told I got
>>> pale.
>>> They shared with me all would be ok.
>>> they would be there and help out if the dog didn't do what he was
>>> trained to do.
>>> I was pleased, and still am pleased with my dog.
>>> We are a swell match.
>>> 
>>> Original message:
>>>> I don't think it is something you necessarily test. At the Seeing Eye,
>>>> they showed it to us by taking us to a subway platform and telling us
>>>> to walk forward. Before the dog would get to the edge, it turned left
>>>> or right and started up or down the track.
>>> 
>>>> CL
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 30, 2013, at 3:16 PM, Chasity Jackson wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> What kind of places have you all used to test your dog's level of
>>>>> intelligent disobedience?
>>> 
>>>>> This topic has made me reflect on a past experience I had with my first
>>>>> guide dog Vanda. We were on the college campus, and I was unaware of
>>>>> the fact that they had dug up the pavement and there was a huge thirty
>>>>> foot deep hole there. They were doing some construction outside. I was
>>>>> trying to cross that driveway and she wouldn't let me, she was very
>>>>> insistant on it too. She threw her body in front of me and then spun to
>>>>> the right, as the hole was to our left. I had never seen her so
>>>>> insistant on getting her way and doing it the way she wanted, and now I
>>>>> know why.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 2:51 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Intelligent disobedience
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>>> I think intelligent disobedience is more closely related to confidence
>>>>>> level than anything else.  A dog basically needs to have the emotional
>>>>>> ability to say no without crumbling.
>>> 
>>>>>> Monty is what I'd call very high on the obedience chart.  He very much
>>>>>> wants to please his people and will go above and beyond to accomplish
>>>>>> this.  He is also decently high on the confidence scale.  If I want to
>>>>>> do something dumb he will stick to his decision even after repeated
>>>>>> attempts to get him to do things my way.  It doesn't seem to bother him
>>>>>> too much as long as I don't correct or raise my voice.  So I've learned
>>>>>> when we are standing on the corner and he is refusing to go some
>>>>>> particular way I need to offer some different options until we can
>>>>>> agree on one.
>>> 
>>>>>> Belle is not a very obedient dog and is much lower in confidence. With
>>>>>> her I got one chance to figure it out.  If she stopped and I didn't
>>>>>> take enough time to figure out what was going on and told her to
>>>>>> continue, she would.  sometimes that was not so great for me.  I don't
>>>>>> know that she's a good example though.  She was never really cut out to
>>>>>> be a guide dog.
>>> 
>>>>>> Tia, my first dog from way back when, was obedient when it suited her,
>>>>>> but was very confident.  She very much wanted to do things her way all
>>>>>> the time.  If I suggested some dumb thing she'd wait ever so patiently
>>>>>> until I saw things her way.  She never gave in to my stupidity.
>>> 
>>>>>> It's an interesting discussion.  Thanks for bringing it up.
>>>>>> Julie
>>> 
>>>>>> On 1/30/2013 2:16 PM, Tami Jarvis wrote:
>>>>>>> Tracy,
>>> 
>>>>>>> That's something I've wondered about off and on about guide dogs in
>>>>>>> general. They're all trained in intelligent disobedience... But how
>>>>>>> stubborn is the average guide dog about applying that training?
>>> 
>>>>>>> Mitzi is stubborn and has developed a number of ways of letting me know
>>> 
>>>>>>> -- correction: trying to let me know -- that I am being a complete dumb
>>> 
>>>>>>> head and would get myself hurt or done in if she didn't go to
>>>>>>> extraordinary lengths to protect me from myself. /lol/ She is also very
>>> 
>>>>>>> good at saying, "I told you so," once I figure it out.
>>> 
>>>>>>> So now I'm really spoiled, of course. But as Mitzi moves toward the
>>>>>>> 7-year mark, I do find myself wondering about that trait of hers. I
>>>>>>> think the major reason I want to do some basic guide dog training with
>>>>>>> DD's pup Zay is because she is naturally a more obedient type of dog,
>>>>>>> in the classical concept of obedience. Very eager to please, etc., etc.
>>> 
>>>>>>> So I want to find out, using very safe places, if she can take the
>>>>>>> basic skills and develop some general responsibility, then bump it up
>>>>>>> to the next level and refuse to let me walk into the street or
>>> something. Hm...
>>> 
>>>>>>> My secret fear for the future is that I will inadvertently end up with
>>>>>>> a guide dog that does what I tell it to, just because I tell it to...
>>>>>>> Probably because of all the people who take it upon themselves to
>>>>>>> question Mitzi's fitness (or even ask smart questions in a sensible
>>>>>>> way) as a guide, since they thought guide dogs are supposed to be
>>>>>>> totally obedient. /lol/ I used to get really annoyed by that sort of
>>>>>>> thing, but now I just stare at whoever might bring it up these days in
>>>>>>> horror, then burst out laughing. OMG! I would be soooo doomed! /lol/
>>> 
>>>>>>> Tami
>>> 
>>>>>>> On 01/30/2013 10:02 AM, Tracy Carcione wrote:
>>>>>>>> Sometimes I get mixed up about exactly where I am, and tell Ben to do
>>>>>>>> something dumb, like turn to cross the street before we get to the
>>>>>>>> crosswalk.  He says No, and I insist, and he insists back, and, after
>>> 2
>>>>>>>> or 3 times, I finally get it through my fat head that this time he is
>>>>>>>> right and I am wrong, and I tell him how great he is.
>>>>>>>> I know all guide dogs do intelligent disobedience, but do they all
>>>>>>>> insist when their silly user persists in wrong-headedness?  Or is this
>>> a
>>>>>>>> special feature I need to remember to mention, when it comes time for
>>>>>>>> New Dog? Actually, I did just tell Seeing Eye to put it in my record
>>>>>>>> that I need a dog who insists, but I wonder if it really goes without
>>>>>>>> saying.  But then, some things I think go without saying apparently
>>> don't.
>>>>>>>> So, do all guide dogs insist in disobedience, even in small things
>>> like
>>>>>>>> the right place to cross the street?
>>>>>>>> Tracy
>>> 
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