[nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take pictures of your dog

Lyn Gwizdak linda.gwizdak at cox.net
Sun Feb 10 22:25:50 UTC 2013 

Hi Eve,
I can see what you mean about the labels, "partials or sighteds" and 
"Totals" and the stigmas attached to them.  This sucks but is reality.  It 
is like in the Black community light skinned or dark skinned and the stigma 
is more on the dark skinned as the totals are looked upon as less in the 
blind community.  On both couonts it is wrong!

You should NEVER play second fiddle to anyone else just because they may 
possess more or full eyesight.  I've seen this behavior mainly in the blind 
schools where some people feel the need to dump on someone else - well, the 
totals.  Partials have some sight so they would be in the "sighted camp" 
even though partials get crap from both sides - fully sighted (you're not 
really blind - you're faking it!) or totals who may begrudge partials for 
having some sighted privilege.  But we all - totals and partials - really 
get the crap from society that decides what we can or can't do based on 
misconceptions, fear, and plain old bigotry rather than going to the 
experts - those of us with the blindness.

The truth is that we are all blind and we all have alot of challenges 
although they may vary.  I have friends who are fully sighted, partially 
sighted, and totally blind - makes no difference to me.  I judge them on 
what kind of person they are.  Yeah, I'm a low partial - I use a guide dog. 
I used to be a high partial when I was a teenager and I rode my bike all 
over town.  I agree, we should junk the labels and just become people with 
some extra issues to be dealt with.

Oh yeah, I don't care who takes my dog's picture.  Landon's wound up on 
people's Facebook! They all ask me first.  Landon was doing something cute 
like lie with his head up and his front legs crossed like he was royalty!  I 
saw the pix and thought they were very cute.  They didn't take my picture - 
just the dog.  The people who took the pix then asked me about guide dogs 
and I used it as a learning/teaching moment. I have some of these cute pix 
on my own Facebook timeline and i don't mind if my FB friends share them. 
Many of these friends love Landon!  LOL!  Oh, who knows how many pix get 
taken of Landon with his booties on as we march in the Pride Parade!  Maybe 
seeing Landon in booties will remind them to use booties on their own dogs 
on hot pavement.  One never knows.

Take care,

Lyn and Landon


"Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like 
asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eve Sanchez" <celticyaya at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take 
pictures of your dog


>I have no problem with my dog getting her picture taken as long as no one
> talks to her and I am not in the picture without knowing. I may be having 
> a
> fat day or not have my makeup on or something. My dog is not as vain. What
> does piss me off, in a side note, is the designation between sighted and
> totals. This always seems to come from the 'total' as they like to call
> themselves as seems to be a type of prejudice in that they feel they are
> more disabled or more blind than others. Sorry to vent on this, but it
> really pisses me off and I know I am not the only one who feels this way
> though many people will not say so. I would appreciate the terms going
> away. Thanks for the opportunity to get my word out. Eve
>
> On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 1:36 PM, cheryl echevarria 
> <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com
>> wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes I am also with Lion International and the Brentwood Chamber of
>> Commerce and other Travel Agent Organizations.
>> But I do not let anyone come up to me and take a picture of me or Maxx.
>> These are different situations.
>> Have a great day to all. Bright and sunny after the Blizzard. Um isn't
>> Nemo a fish and Captain Nemo for 20,000 leagues under the sea, I just 
>> don't
>> know where they get the names of these storms from.
>> Lol.
>>
>> Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY State
>> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!SNG Certified - Accessible Travel
>> Advocate!Cheryl Echevarria, Ownerhttp://
>> www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations at echevarriatravel.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com2012
>> Norwegian Cruise Line University Advisory Board Member.
>> Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST -
>> #1018299-10Echevarria Travel and proud member of the National Federation 
>> of
>> the Blind will be holding a year round fundraiser for the
>> http://www.NFBNY.org <http://www.nfbny.org/> after Hurricane Sandy and
>> other resources. Any vacation package booked between November 6
>> 2012-November 6, 2013 and vacation must be traveled no later than
>> 12/30/2014 a percentage of my earnings will go to the affiliate.  Also is
>> you book a Sandals for couples or Beaches for families and friends 
>> resorts
>> vacation, $100.00 per booking will go to the affiliate as well.  You do 
>> not
>> need to be a member of the NFB.org, just book through us.
>>
>>
>> > From: lkeeler at comcast.net
>> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> > Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 16:22:35 -0500
>> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take
>> pictures of your dog
>>  >
>> > Cheryl, sometimes I do and sometimes I don't.  I have a picture of 
>> > Holly
>> and
>> > I with the bishop.  I also have a couple with the Knights of Columbus.
>>  AIn
>> > these cases, I allowed it to prove that these organizations will admit
>> and
>> > approve of blind folks and there service animals.
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>> > To: "nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>; "nyagdu" <nyagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 12:05 PM
>> > Subject: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take
>> pictures
>> > of your dog
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Good morning everyone:
>> > > Nelson is busy shoveling the snow outside from Nemo, Blizzard 2013.
>> > > Anyway, while I was in Washington, D.C. this past week with some of
>> you. I
>> > > was talking with some members of the Utah Chapter and a woman, who 
>> > > was
>> not
>> > > a member of the NFB, a guest in the hotel asked me if she could take 
>> > > a
>> > > picture of Maxx.
>> > > I said no. She asked me why. Well first I said, "Because I do not 
>> > > want
>> my
>> > > dog all over social media from strangers that I do not know", she
>> became
>> > > quite obnoxious about it. I put it to her this way. I said are you a
>> > > parent, she said yes. Well would you like any of your family or
>> children
>> > > to have there pictures taken by strangers posted all over the 
>> > > internet.
>> > > That is not right.
>> > > Then she got it and understood.
>> > > Have you had the same issues. Sometime someone tells me that they 
>> > > took
>> a
>> > > picture of me and the dog, and I get upset, only because they didn't
>> ask
>> > > and the same issue. I should be the one to post pictures and videos 
>> > > of
>> me
>> > > and maxx if I want, but not strangers.
>> > > Cheryl
>> > >
>> > > Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY State
>> > > Leading the Way in Independent Travel!SNG Certified - Accessible 
>> > > Travel
>> > > Advocate!Cheryl Echevarria,
>> > > Ownerhttp://www.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations
>> @echevarriatravel.comhttp://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com2012
>> > > Norwegian Cruise Line University Advisory Board Member.
>> > > Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST -
>> > > #1018299-10Echevarria Travel and proud member of the National
>> Federation
>> > > of the Blind will be holding a year round fundraiser for the
>> > > http://www.NFBNY.org <http://www.nfbny.org/> after Hurricane Sandy
>> and other resources. Any
>> > > vacation package booked between November 6 2012-November 6, 2013 and
>> > > vacation must be traveled no later than 12/30/2014 a percentage of my
>> > > earnings will go to the affiliate.  Also is you book a Sandals for
>> couples
>> > > or Beaches for families and friends resorts vacation, $100.00 per
>> booking
>> > > will go to the affiliate as well.  You do not need to be a member of
>> the
>> > > NFB.org, just book through us.
>> > >
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