[nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to takepictures of your dog

Mon Feb 11 04:56:07 UTC 2013

Yes and to take it further, to me impaired implies something is broken and
I am not broken no matter how my back feels. Thanks for input. Eve

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Larry D. Keeler <lkeeler at comcast.net>wrote:

> This came up at our chapter meeting yesterday.  I objected to using
> visually impaired in a flier we're putting up.  Someone sitting next to me
> piped up and announced she wasn't blind!!  I told her she most certainly
> was! She just happened to have sight.  Of course I had to again explain our
> philosophy to her, AGAIN!!  But, the point is that once you start
> separating out folks for whatever reason, you make distinctions between
> US!! and them! And, you then can break up any well functioning group by
> drawing attention to differences.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <
> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 5:25 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to
> takepictures of your dog
>
>
> Hi Eve,
>> I can see what you mean about the labels, "partials or sighteds" and
>> "Totals" and the stigmas attached to them.  This sucks but is reality.  It
>> is like in the Black community light skinned or dark skinned and the stigma
>> is more on the dark skinned as the totals are looked upon as less in the
>> blind community.  On both couonts it is wrong!
>>
>> You should NEVER play second fiddle to anyone else just because they may
>> possess more or full eyesight.  I've seen this behavior mainly in the blind
>> schools where some people feel the need to dump on someone else - well, the
>> totals.  Partials have some sight so they would be in the "sighted camp"
>> even though partials get crap from both sides - fully sighted (you're not
>> really blind - you're faking it!) or totals who may begrudge partials for
>> having some sighted privilege.  But we all - totals and partials - really
>> get the crap from society that decides what we can or can't do based on
>> misconceptions, fear, and plain old bigotry rather than going to the
>> experts - those of us with the blindness.
>>
>> The truth is that we are all blind and we all have alot of challenges
>> although they may vary.  I have friends who are fully sighted, partially
>> sighted, and totally blind - makes no difference to me.  I judge them on
>> what kind of person they are.  Yeah, I'm a low partial - I use a guide dog.
>> I used to be a high partial when I was a teenager and I rode my bike all
>> over town.  I agree, we should junk the labels and just become people with
>> some extra issues to be dealt with.
>>
>> Oh yeah, I don't care who takes my dog's picture.  Landon's wound up on
>> people's Facebook! They all ask me first.  Landon was doing something cute
>> like lie with his head up and his front legs crossed like he was royalty! I
>> saw the pix and thought they were very cute.  They didn't take my picture -
>> just the dog.  The people who took the pix then asked me about guide dogs
>> and I used it as a learning/teaching moment. I have some of these cute pix
>> on my own Facebook timeline and i don't mind if my FB friends share them.
>> Many of these friends love Landon!  LOL!  Oh, who knows how many pix get
>> taken of Landon with his booties on as we march in the Pride Parade!  Maybe
>> seeing Landon in booties will remind them to use booties on their own dogs
>> on hot pavement.  One never knows.
>>
>> Take care,
>>
>> Lyn and Landon
>>
>>
>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like
>> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eve Sanchez" <celticyaya at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <
>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 6:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take
>> pictures of your dog
>>
>>
>> I have no problem with my dog getting her picture taken as long as no one
>>> talks to her and I am not in the picture without knowing. I may be
>>> having a
>>> fat day or not have my makeup on or something. My dog is not as vain.
>>> What
>>> does piss me off, in a side note, is the designation between sighted and
>>> totals. This always seems to come from the 'total' as they like to call
>>> themselves as seems to be a type of prejudice in that they feel they are
>>> more disabled or more blind than others. Sorry to vent on this, but it
>>> really pisses me off and I know I am not the only one who feels this way
>>> though many people will not say so. I would appreciate the terms going
>>> away. Thanks for the opportunity to get my word out. Eve
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 1:36 PM, cheryl echevarria <
>>> cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yes I am also with Lion International and the Brentwood Chamber of
>>>> Commerce and other Travel Agent Organizations.
>>>> But I do not let anyone come up to me and take a picture of me or Maxx.
>>>> These are different situations.
>>>> Have a great day to all. Bright and sunny after the Blizzard. Um isn't
>>>> Nemo a fish and Captain Nemo for 20,000 leagues under the sea, I just
>>>> don't
>>>> know where they get the names of these storms from.
>>>> Lol.
>>>>
>>>> Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY State
>>>> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!SNG Certified - Accessible Travel
>>>> Advocate!Cheryl Echevarria, Ownerhttp://
>>>> www.echevarriatravel.com631-**456-5394reservations@**
>>>> echevarriatravel.comhttp://**www.echevarriatravel.**wordpress.com2012
>>>> Norwegian Cruise Line University Advisory Board Member.
>>>> Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST -
>>>> #1018299-10Echevarria Travel and proud member of the National
>>>> Federation of
>>>> the Blind will be holding a year round fundraiser for the
>>>> http://www.NFBNY.org <http://www.nfbny.org/> <http://www.nfbny.org/>
>>>> after Hurricane Sandy and
>>>> other resources. Any vacation package booked between November 6
>>>> 2012-November 6, 2013 and vacation must be traveled no later than
>>>> 12/30/2014 a percentage of my earnings will go to the affiliate.  Also
>>>> is
>>>> you book a Sandals for couples or Beaches for families and friends
>>>> resorts
>>>> vacation, $100.00 per booking will go to the affiliate as well.  You do
>>>> not
>>>> need to be a member of the NFB.org, just book through us.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > From: lkeeler at comcast.net
>>>> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>> > Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 16:22:35 -0500
>>>> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take
>>>> pictures of your dog
>>>>  >
>>>> > Cheryl, sometimes I do and sometimes I don't.  I have a picture of >
>>>> Holly
>>>> and
>>>> > I with the bishop.  I also have a couple with the Knights of Columbus.
>>>>  AIn
>>>> > these cases, I allowed it to prove that these organizations will admit
>>>> and
>>>> > approve of blind folks and there service animals.
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>>>> > To: "nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>; "nyagdu" <nyagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 12:05 PM
>>>> > Subject: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take
>>>> pictures
>>>> > of your dog
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Good morning everyone:
>>>> > > Nelson is busy shoveling the snow outside from Nemo, Blizzard 2013.
>>>> > > Anyway, while I was in Washington, D.C. this past week with some of
>>>> you. I
>>>> > > was talking with some members of the Utah Chapter and a woman, who
>>>> > > was
>>>> not
>>>> > > a member of the NFB, a guest in the hotel asked me if she could
>>>> take > > a
>>>> > > picture of Maxx.
>>>> > > I said no. She asked me why. Well first I said, "Because I do not >
>>>> > want
>>>> my
>>>> > > dog all over social media from strangers that I do not know", she
>>>> became
>>>> > > quite obnoxious about it. I put it to her this way. I said are you a
>>>> > > parent, she said yes. Well would you like any of your family or
>>>> children
>>>> > > to have there pictures taken by strangers posted all over the > >
>>>> internet.
>>>> > > That is not right.
>>>> > > Then she got it and understood.
>>>> > > Have you had the same issues. Sometime someone tells me that they >
>>>> > took
>>>> a
>>>> > > picture of me and the dog, and I get upset, only because they didn't
>>>> ask
>>>> > > and the same issue. I should be the one to post pictures and videos
>>>> > > of
>>>> me
>>>> > > and maxx if I want, but not strangers.
>>>> > > Cheryl
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY State
>>>> > > Leading the Way in Independent Travel!SNG Certified - Accessible >
>>>> > Travel
>>>> > > Advocate!Cheryl Echevarria,
>>>> > > Ownerhttp://www.**echevarriatravel.com631-456-**5394reservations
>>>> @echevarriatravel.comhttp://**www.echevarriatravel.**wordpress.com2012
>>>> > > Norwegian Cruise Line University Advisory Board Member.
>>>> > > Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST -
>>>> > > #1018299-10Echevarria Travel and proud member of the National
>>>> Federation
>>>> > > of the Blind will be holding a year round fundraiser for the
>>>> > > http://www.NFBNY.org <http://www.nfbny.org/> <http://www.nfbny.org/>
>>>> after Hurricane Sandy
>>>> and other resources. Any
>>>> > > vacation package booked between November 6 2012-November 6, 2013 and
>>>> > > vacation must be traveled no later than 12/30/2014 a percentage of
>>>> > > my
>>>> > > earnings will go to the affiliate.  Also is you book a Sandals for
>>>> couples
>>>> > > or Beaches for families and friends resorts vacation, $100.00 per
>>>> booking
>>>> > > will go to the affiliate as well.  You do not need to be a member of
>>>> the
>>>> > > NFB.org, just book through us.
>>>> > >
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