[nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to takepictures of your dog

rhonda cruz rhondaprincess at gmail.com
Mon Feb 11 16:06:02 UTC 2013 

 i think people should ask me before taking my dog's picture. 
On 
 i feel like it is your choice.
 those are my thoughts.
Feb 10, 2013, at 8:56 PM, Eve Sanchez wrote:

> Yes and to take it further, to me impaired implies something is broken and
> I am not broken no matter how my back feels. Thanks for input. Eve
> 
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Larry D. Keeler <lkeeler at comcast.net>wrote:
> 
>> This came up at our chapter meeting yesterday.  I objected to using
>> visually impaired in a flier we're putting up.  Someone sitting next to me
>> piped up and announced she wasn't blind!!  I told her she most certainly
>> was! She just happened to have sight.  Of course I had to again explain our
>> philosophy to her, AGAIN!!  But, the point is that once you start
>> separating out folks for whatever reason, you make distinctions between
>> US!! and them! And, you then can break up any well functioning group by
>> drawing attention to differences.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>> 
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <
>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 5:25 PM
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to
>> takepictures of your dog
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Eve,
>>> I can see what you mean about the labels, "partials or sighteds" and
>>> "Totals" and the stigmas attached to them.  This sucks but is reality.  It
>>> is like in the Black community light skinned or dark skinned and the stigma
>>> is more on the dark skinned as the totals are looked upon as less in the
>>> blind community.  On both couonts it is wrong!
>>> 
>>> You should NEVER play second fiddle to anyone else just because they may
>>> possess more or full eyesight.  I've seen this behavior mainly in the blind
>>> schools where some people feel the need to dump on someone else - well, the
>>> totals.  Partials have some sight so they would be in the "sighted camp"
>>> even though partials get crap from both sides - fully sighted (you're not
>>> really blind - you're faking it!) or totals who may begrudge partials for
>>> having some sighted privilege.  But we all - totals and partials - really
>>> get the crap from society that decides what we can or can't do based on
>>> misconceptions, fear, and plain old bigotry rather than going to the
>>> experts - those of us with the blindness.
>>> 
>>> The truth is that we are all blind and we all have alot of challenges
>>> although they may vary.  I have friends who are fully sighted, partially
>>> sighted, and totally blind - makes no difference to me.  I judge them on
>>> what kind of person they are.  Yeah, I'm a low partial - I use a guide dog.
>>> I used to be a high partial when I was a teenager and I rode my bike all
>>> over town.  I agree, we should junk the labels and just become people with
>>> some extra issues to be dealt with.
>>> 
>>> Oh yeah, I don't care who takes my dog's picture.  Landon's wound up on
>>> people's Facebook! They all ask me first.  Landon was doing something cute
>>> like lie with his head up and his front legs crossed like he was royalty! I
>>> saw the pix and thought they were very cute.  They didn't take my picture -
>>> just the dog.  The people who took the pix then asked me about guide dogs
>>> and I used it as a learning/teaching moment. I have some of these cute pix
>>> on my own Facebook timeline and i don't mind if my FB friends share them.
>>> Many of these friends love Landon!  LOL!  Oh, who knows how many pix get
>>> taken of Landon with his booties on as we march in the Pride Parade!  Maybe
>>> seeing Landon in booties will remind them to use booties on their own dogs
>>> on hot pavement.  One never knows.
>>> 
>>> Take care,
>>> 
>>> Lyn and Landon
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like
>>> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eve Sanchez" <celticyaya at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <
>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 6:02 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take
>>> pictures of your dog
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have no problem with my dog getting her picture taken as long as no one
>>>> talks to her and I am not in the picture without knowing. I may be
>>>> having a
>>>> fat day or not have my makeup on or something. My dog is not as vain.
>>>> What
>>>> does piss me off, in a side note, is the designation between sighted and
>>>> totals. This always seems to come from the 'total' as they like to call
>>>> themselves as seems to be a type of prejudice in that they feel they are
>>>> more disabled or more blind than others. Sorry to vent on this, but it
>>>> really pisses me off and I know I am not the only one who feels this way
>>>> though many people will not say so. I would appreciate the terms going
>>>> away. Thanks for the opportunity to get my word out. Eve
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 1:36 PM, cheryl echevarria <
>>>> cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com
>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Yes I am also with Lion International and the Brentwood Chamber of
>>>>> Commerce and other Travel Agent Organizations.
>>>>> But I do not let anyone come up to me and take a picture of me or Maxx.
>>>>> These are different situations.
>>>>> Have a great day to all. Bright and sunny after the Blizzard. Um isn't
>>>>> Nemo a fish and Captain Nemo for 20,000 leagues under the sea, I just
>>>>> don't
>>>>> know where they get the names of these storms from.
>>>>> Lol.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY State
>>>>> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!SNG Certified - Accessible Travel
>>>>> Advocate!Cheryl Echevarria, Ownerhttp://
>>>>> www.echevarriatravel.com631-**456-5394reservations@**
>>>>> echevarriatravel.comhttp://**www.echevarriatravel.**wordpress.com2012
>>>>> Norwegian Cruise Line University Advisory Board Member.
>>>>> Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST -
>>>>> #1018299-10Echevarria Travel and proud member of the National
>>>>> Federation of
>>>>> the Blind will be holding a year round fundraiser for the
>>>>> http://www.NFBNY.org <http://www.nfbny.org/> <http://www.nfbny.org/>
>>>>> after Hurricane Sandy and
>>>>> other resources. Any vacation package booked between November 6
>>>>> 2012-November 6, 2013 and vacation must be traveled no later than
>>>>> 12/30/2014 a percentage of my earnings will go to the affiliate.  Also
>>>>> is
>>>>> you book a Sandals for couples or Beaches for families and friends
>>>>> resorts
>>>>> vacation, $100.00 per booking will go to the affiliate as well.  You do
>>>>> not
>>>>> need to be a member of the NFB.org, just book through us.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: lkeeler at comcast.net
>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 16:22:35 -0500
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take
>>>>> pictures of your dog
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheryl, sometimes I do and sometimes I don't.  I have a picture of >
>>>>> Holly
>>>>> and
>>>>>> I with the bishop.  I also have a couple with the Knights of Columbus.
>>>>> AIn
>>>>>> these cases, I allowed it to prove that these organizations will admit
>>>>> and
>>>>>> approve of blind folks and there service animals.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>; "nyagdu" <nyagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 12:05 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take
>>>>> pictures
>>>>>> of your dog
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Good morning everyone:
>>>>>>> Nelson is busy shoveling the snow outside from Nemo, Blizzard 2013.
>>>>>>> Anyway, while I was in Washington, D.C. this past week with some of
>>>>> you. I
>>>>>>> was talking with some members of the Utah Chapter and a woman, who
>>>>>>> was
>>>>> not
>>>>>>> a member of the NFB, a guest in the hotel asked me if she could
>>>>> take > > a
>>>>>>> picture of Maxx.
>>>>>>> I said no. She asked me why. Well first I said, "Because I do not >
>>>>>> want
>>>>> my
>>>>>>> dog all over social media from strangers that I do not know", she
>>>>> became
>>>>>>> quite obnoxious about it. I put it to her this way. I said are you a
>>>>>>> parent, she said yes. Well would you like any of your family or
>>>>> children
>>>>>>> to have there pictures taken by strangers posted all over the > >
>>>>> internet.
>>>>>>> That is not right.
>>>>>>> Then she got it and understood.
>>>>>>> Have you had the same issues. Sometime someone tells me that they >
>>>>>> took
>>>>> a
>>>>>>> picture of me and the dog, and I get upset, only because they didn't
>>>>> ask
>>>>>>> and the same issue. I should be the one to post pictures and videos
>>>>>>> of
>>>>> me
>>>>>>> and maxx if I want, but not strangers.
>>>>>>> Cheryl
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY State
>>>>>>> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!SNG Certified - Accessible >
>>>>>> Travel
>>>>>>> Advocate!Cheryl Echevarria,
>>>>>>> Ownerhttp://www.**echevarriatravel.com631-456-**5394reservations
>>>>> @echevarriatravel.comhttp://**www.echevarriatravel.**wordpress.com2012
>>>>>>> Norwegian Cruise Line University Advisory Board Member.
>>>>>>> Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST -
>>>>>>> #1018299-10Echevarria Travel and proud member of the National
>>>>> Federation
>>>>>>> of the Blind will be holding a year round fundraiser for the
>>>>>>> http://www.NFBNY.org <http://www.nfbny.org/> <http://www.nfbny.org/>
>>>>> after Hurricane Sandy
>>>>> and other resources. Any
>>>>>>> vacation package booked between November 6 2012-November 6, 2013 and
>>>>>>> vacation must be traveled no later than 12/30/2014 a percentage of
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> earnings will go to the affiliate.  Also is you book a Sandals for
>>>>> couples
>>>>>>> or Beaches for families and friends resorts vacation, $100.00 per
>>>>> booking
>>>>>>> will go to the affiliate as well.  You do not need to be a member of
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> NFB.org, just book through us.
>>>>>>> 
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