[nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take pictures of your dog

Eve Sanchez celticyaya at gmail.com
Thu Feb 14 20:45:13 UTC 2013 

Lyn, I was wondering the same thing, but did not want to ask. Hopefully it
was worded wrong for both of us to misinterpret. Eve

On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net> wrote:

> Ummm Dar,
> This lady is a blind Lion with a guide dog but she doesn't want any other
> guide dog users in the parade - did I hear this right??  If so, what is
> that all about?  She can't control her dog?
>
> That reminds me about the time I was at an event in Balboa Park were there
> wwere alot of dogs and a mini horse there.  The police were doing a police
> dog demonstration - the dog ran to bite the man in the padded suit to show
> how a police dog apprehends a criminal who is trying to flee.  I had my
> guide dog with me and I had stopped to watch.  The cop actually told me to
> move on because my dog was a distraction to the police dog!  I said that
> maybe he needs to teach his dog to work with distractions like mine was.
>  My dog was able to work well with all the distractions aroound at that
> event. the cop had nothing to say to coounter what i said to him.  Ballsy
> me!
>
> Hey, I'd go to the parade anyway and tell that woman to do some refresher
> in distraction work with her dog!
>
>
> Lyn and Landon
> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like
> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 6:11 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take
> pictures of your dog
>
>
> yes we had a lady who was in the parade with her dog.
>> She didn't want anyone else to come.
>> Especially with a dog.
>> She was a lion.
>> So we have friends who are lions where we could set it up.
>> I will ask early so we can get it started.
>> Original message:
>>
>>> Hi Dar,
>>> To be in a parade, one must be associated with a group who is in the
>>> parade.
>>> I march in our LGBT Pride parade with a group I belong to - actually, I'd
>>> have to split myself in twos or threes to march in all the groups I
>>> belong
>>> to that are contingents in the parade! LOL!  Landon and I are also in our
>>> neighborhoood Christmas Toyland Parade as part of our contingent from our
>>> Blind Community Center.  We have our Center's bus in it with the people
>>> who
>>> can't walk but several of our members with guide dogs do walk in the
>>> parade.
>>> We decorate our dogs in holiday collars.  Landon has learned how to walk
>>> in
>>> the street in a parade from the many street demonstrations we've been in
>>> over the years!  He has to teach the other guide dogs who NEVER walk in
>>> the
>>> street except for making street crossings. LOL!  We do have sighted help
>>> in
>>> helping us to keep in our contingent, tell us when to stop, turn, and to
>>> go
>>> after we stop to let the contingents to maintain proper spacing that
>>> keeps
>>> the parade moving smoothly along.  Some people just go sighted guide and
>>> heel their dogs.
>>>
>>
>> For you, join a group that marches in your holiday parade and maybe you
>>> can
>>> march or be on a float in it.  It's alot of fun and people enjoy seeing
>>> guide and other service dogs in parades.  Remember that street pavement
>>> is
>>> usually hotter than regular sidewalks.  Streets are blacktop which sucks
>>> in
>>> the heat and most sidewalks are white concrete which repells some of the
>>> heat - depends on time of year and location.
>>>
>>
>> For me to determine when I need to put Landon's booties on, I will place
>>> my
>>> palm flat on the street.  If I go, "Yow!" and pull my hand off in only
>>> seconds, it is bootie time!  If I can keep my hand there as long as I
>>> want
>>> to keep it there without discomfort, well, Landon can go barefoot. People
>>> want to take Landon's picture in his booties is mainly because most
>>> people
>>> never give a hot pavement a thought when they briong their dogs out in
>>> parades - this happens in the Pride parade and street fairs because these
>>> are held in the middle of our summer heat with the strongest sunshine.
>>> Countless people have come up to me to thank me for putting booties on my
>>> dog and they tell me about the poor dogs who has less than attentive
>>> owners.
>>> Those dogs are picking up each foot over and over because their pads are
>>> burning on the blacktop!  Poor doggies!
>>>
>>
>> Lyn and Landon
>>>
>>
>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like
>>> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 2:32 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take
>>> pictures of your dog
>>>
>>
>>
>>  I need to work with my dog with his booties.
>>>> That is a swell idea in a parade to have him wear them.
>>>> I would love to see us in the Christmas parade this year.
>>>> How far advanced do you need to plan for this?
>>>>
>>>
>>  Original message:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Eve,
>>>>> I can see what you mean about the labels, "partials or sighteds" and
>>>>> "Totals" and the stigmas attached to them.  This sucks but is reality.
>>>>> It
>>>>> is like in the Black community light skinned or dark skinned and the
>>>>> stigma
>>>>> is more on the dark skinned as the totals are looked upon as less in
>>>>> the
>>>>> blind community.  On both couonts it is wrong!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>  You should NEVER play second fiddle to anyone else just because they may
>>>>> possess more or full eyesight.  I've seen this behavior mainly in the
>>>>> blind
>>>>> schools where some people feel the need to dump on someone else - well,
>>>>> the
>>>>> totals.  Partials have some sight so they would be in the "sighted
>>>>> camp"
>>>>> even though partials get crap from both sides - fully sighted (you're
>>>>> not
>>>>> really blind - you're faking it!) or totals who may begrudge partials
>>>>> for
>>>>> having some sighted privilege.  But we all - totals and partials -
>>>>> really
>>>>> get the crap from society that decides what we can or can't do based on
>>>>> misconceptions, fear, and plain old bigotry rather than going to the
>>>>> experts - those of us with the blindness.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>  The truth is that we are all blind and we all have alot of challenges
>>>>> although they may vary.  I have friends who are fully sighted,
>>>>> partially
>>>>> sighted, and totally blind - makes no difference to me.  I judge them
>>>>> on
>>>>> what kind of person they are.  Yeah, I'm a low partial - I use a guide
>>>>> dog.
>>>>> I used to be a high partial when I was a teenager and I rode my bike
>>>>> all
>>>>> over town.  I agree, we should junk the labels and just become people
>>>>> with
>>>>> some extra issues to be dealt with.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>  Oh yeah, I don't care who takes my dog's picture.  Landon's wound up on
>>>>> people's Facebook! They all ask me first.  Landon was doing something
>>>>> cute
>>>>> like lie with his head up and his front legs crossed like he was
>>>>> royalty!
>>>>> I
>>>>> saw the pix and thought they were very cute.  They didn't take my
>>>>> picture -
>>>>> just the dog.  The people who took the pix then asked me about guide
>>>>> dogs
>>>>> and I used it as a learning/teaching moment. I have some of these cute
>>>>> pix
>>>>> on my own Facebook timeline and i don't mind if my FB friends share
>>>>> them.
>>>>> Many of these friends love Landon!  LOL!  Oh, who knows how many pix
>>>>> get
>>>>> taken of Landon with his booties on as we march in the Pride Parade!
>>>>> Maybe
>>>>> seeing Landon in booties will remind them to use booties on their own
>>>>> dogs
>>>>> on hot pavement.  One never knows.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>  Take care,
>>>>>
>>>>
>>  Lyn and Landon
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>  "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is
>>>>> like
>>>>> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Eve Sanchez" <celticyaya at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 6:02 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take
>>>>> pictures of your dog
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>   I have no problem with my dog getting her picture taken as long as no
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> talks to her and I am not in the picture without knowing. I may be
>>>>>> having
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> fat day or not have my makeup on or something. My dog is not as vain.
>>>>>> What
>>>>>> does piss me off, in a side note, is the designation between sighted
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> totals. This always seems to come from the 'total' as they like to
>>>>>> call
>>>>>> themselves as seems to be a type of prejudice in that they feel they
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> more disabled or more blind than others. Sorry to vent on this, but it
>>>>>> really pisses me off and I know I am not the only one who feels this
>>>>>> way
>>>>>> though many people will not say so. I would appreciate the terms going
>>>>>> away. Thanks for the opportunity to get my word out. Eve
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>   On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 1:36 PM, cheryl echevarria
>>>>>> <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>   Yes I am also with Lion International and the Brentwood Chamber of
>>>>>>> Commerce and other Travel Agent Organizations.
>>>>>>> But I do not let anyone come up to me and take a picture of me or
>>>>>>> Maxx.
>>>>>>> These are different situations.
>>>>>>> Have a great day to all. Bright and sunny after the Blizzard. Um
>>>>>>> isn't
>>>>>>> Nemo a fish and Captain Nemo for 20,000 leagues under the sea, I just
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> know where they get the names of these storms from.
>>>>>>> Lol.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>   Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY State
>>>>>>> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!SNG Certified - Accessible
>>>>>>> Travel
>>>>>>> Advocate!Cheryl Echevarria, Ownerhttp://
>>>>>>> www.echevarriatravel.com631-**456-5394reservations@**
>>>>>>> echevarriatravel.comhttp://**www.echevarriatravel.**
>>>>>>> wordpress.com2012
>>>>>>> Norwegian Cruise Line University Advisory Board Member.
>>>>>>> Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST -
>>>>>>> #1018299-10Echevarria Travel and proud member of the National
>>>>>>> Federation
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the Blind will be holding a year round fundraiser for the
>>>>>>> http://www.NFBNY.org <http://www.nfbny.org/> <http://www.nfbny.org/>
>>>>>>> after Hurricane Sandy and
>>>>>>> other resources. Any vacation package booked between November 6
>>>>>>> 2012-November 6, 2013 and vacation must be traveled no later than
>>>>>>> 12/30/2014 a percentage of my earnings will go to the affiliate. Also
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> you book a Sandals for couples or Beaches for families and friends
>>>>>>> resorts
>>>>>>> vacation, $100.00 per booking will go to the affiliate as well.  You
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> need to be a member of the NFB.org, just book through us.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>    From: lkeeler at comcast.net
>>>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 16:22:35 -0500
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to
>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> pictures of your dog
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>    Cheryl, sometimes I do and sometimes I don't.  I have a picture of
>>>>>>>> Holly
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I with the bishop.  I also have a couple with the Knights of
>>>>>>>> Columbus.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  AIn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> these cases, I allowed it to prove that these organizations will
>>>>>>>> admit
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> approve of blind folks and there service animals.
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>; "nyagdu" <nyagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 12:05 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> pictures
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> of your dog
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>
>>    Good morning everyone:
>>>>>>>>> Nelson is busy shoveling the snow outside from Nemo, Blizzard 2013.
>>>>>>>>> Anyway, while I was in Washington, D.C. this past week with some of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you. I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> was talking with some members of the Utah Chapter and a woman, who
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a member of the NFB, a guest in the hotel asked me if she could take
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> picture of Maxx.
>>>>>>>>> I said no. She asked me why. Well first I said, "Because I do not
>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> dog all over social media from strangers that I do not know", she
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> became
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> quite obnoxious about it. I put it to her this way. I said are you a
>>>>>>>>> parent, she said yes. Well would you like any of your family or
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> children
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to have there pictures taken by strangers posted all over the
>>>>>>>>> internet.
>>>>>>>>> That is not right.
>>>>>>>>> Then she got it and understood.
>>>>>>>>> Have you had the same issues. Sometime someone tells me that they
>>>>>>>>> took
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> picture of me and the dog, and I get upset, only because they didn't
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ask
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and the same issue. I should be the one to post pictures and videos
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and maxx if I want, but not strangers.
>>>>>>>>> Cheryl
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>    Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY State
>>>>>>>>> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!SNG Certified - Accessible
>>>>>>>>> Travel
>>>>>>>>> Advocate!Cheryl Echevarria,
>>>>>>>>> Ownerhttp://www.**echevarriatravel.com631-456-**5394reservations
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> @echevarriatravel.comhttp://**www.echevarriatravel.**
>>>>>>> wordpress.com2012
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Norwegian Cruise Line University Advisory Board Member.
>>>>>>>>> Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST -
>>>>>>>>> #1018299-10Echevarria Travel and proud member of the National
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Federation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> of the Blind will be holding a year round fundraiser for the
>>>>>>>>> http://www.NFBNY.org <http://www.nfbny.org/> <
>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbny.org/> after Hurricane Sandy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and other resources. Any
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> vacation package booked between November 6 2012-November 6, 2013 and
>>>>>>>>> vacation must be traveled no later than 12/30/2014 a percentage of
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>> earnings will go to the affiliate.  Also is you book a Sandals for
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> couples
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> or Beaches for families and friends resorts vacation, $100.00 per
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> booking
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> will go to the affiliate as well.  You do not need to be a member of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> NFB.org, just book through us.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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