[nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take pictures of your dog
Eve Sanchez
celticyaya at gmail.com
Fri Feb 15 16:19:24 UTC 2013
Larry, That would look great, but I think we also must consider the impact
of the random guide dog thrown in here and there with everyone else. This
dog and handler team exhibit the work done on a daily basis in normal
circumstances. When put in the unusual circumstances such as parades,
fairs, and other events, people take notice and see that the team could do
anything. All exposure is great of course and a group effort would be truly
impressive, but that is not always possable. Do what you could. Eve
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Larry D. Keeler <lkeeler at comcast.net>wrote:
> I think it would be much more impressive to have a whole regiment of guide
> dogs in parade! All well behaved and looking good!
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eve Sanchez" <celticyaya at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <
> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 10:31 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take
> pictures of your dog
>
>
> Gina, Thanks for clarification. That is unreal, but some people are like
>> that I guess. I do not know who you wre talking to about the email
>> address,
>> probably Lyn, but I will give you mine as I love emails. haha It's
>> celticyaya at gmail.com Blessings. Eve
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:12 PM, d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net> wrote:
>>
>> this lady only wanted the lions to work with leader dogs, no other
>>> school.
>>> She didn't want anyone to be better than she was with her dog.
>>> She has passed on now, so I don't have to worry.
>>> I will keep after the lions to get us set up for December.
>>> So we know when this will happen, and how can we help to pull it off.
>>> Our part that is.
>>> I knew I was out and about threw out the city and folks would see me.
>>> Either at the mall or wall mart, any place like that.
>>> I don't have your email address, it doesn't show up.
>>> So I am sure I am past my five messages.
>>> Original message:
>>>
>>> Ummm Dar,
>>>
>>>> This lady is a blind Lion with a guide dog but she doesn't want any
>>>> other
>>>> guide dog users in the parade - did I hear this right?? If so, what is
>>>> that
>>>> all about? She can't control her dog?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That reminds me about the time I was at an event in Balboa Park were
>>> there
>>>
>>>> wwere alot of dogs and a mini horse there. The police were doing a
>>>> police
>>>> dog demonstration - the dog ran to bite the man in the padded suit to
>>>> show
>>>> how a police dog apprehends a criminal who is trying to flee. I had my
>>>> guide dog with me and I had stopped to watch. The cop actually told me
>>>> to
>>>> move on because my dog was a distraction to the police dog! I said that
>>>> maybe he needs to teach his dog to work with distractions like mine was.
>>>> My
>>>> dog was able to work well with all the distractions aroound at that
>>>> event.
>>>> the cop had nothing to say to coounter what i said to him. Ballsy me!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hey, I'd go to the parade anyway and tell that woman to do some refresher
>>>
>>>> in
>>>> distraction work with her dog!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>
>>>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is
>>>> like
>>>> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
>>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 6:11 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take
>>>> pictures of your dog
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> yes we had a lady who was in the parade with her dog.
>>>
>>>> She didn't want anyone else to come.
>>>>> Especially with a dog.
>>>>> She was a lion.
>>>>> So we have friends who are lions where we could set it up.
>>>>> I will ask early so we can get it started.
>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Dar,
>>>>>> To be in a parade, one must be associated with a group who is in the
>>>>>> parade.
>>>>>> I march in our LGBT Pride parade with a group I belong to - actually,
>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>> have to split myself in twos or threes to march in all the groups I
>>>>>> belong
>>>>>> to that are contingents in the parade! LOL! Landon and I are also in
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> neighborhoood Christmas Toyland Parade as part of our contingent from
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> Blind Community Center. We have our Center's bus in it with the
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> who
>>>>>> can't walk but several of our members with guide dogs do walk in the
>>>>>> parade.
>>>>>> We decorate our dogs in holiday collars. Landon has learned how to
>>>>>> walk
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the street in a parade from the many street demonstrations we've been
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> over the years! He has to teach the other guide dogs who NEVER walk
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> street except for making street crossings. LOL! We do have sighted
>>>>>> help
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> helping us to keep in our contingent, tell us when to stop, turn, and
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> go
>>>>>> after we stop to let the contingents to maintain proper spacing that
>>>>>> keeps
>>>>>> the parade moving smoothly along. Some people just go sighted guide
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> heel their dogs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> For you, join a group that marches in your holiday parade and maybe
>>> you
>>>
>>>> can
>>>>>> march or be on a float in it. It's alot of fun and people enjoy
>>>>>> seeing
>>>>>> guide and other service dogs in parades. Remember that street
>>>>>> pavement
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> usually hotter than regular sidewalks. Streets are blacktop which
>>>>>> sucks
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the heat and most sidewalks are white concrete which repells some of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> heat - depends on time of year and location.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> For me to determine when I need to put Landon's booties on, I will
>>> place
>>>
>>>> my
>>>>>> palm flat on the street. If I go, "Yow!" and pull my hand off in only
>>>>>> seconds, it is bootie time! If I can keep my hand there as long as I
>>>>>> want
>>>>>> to keep it there without discomfort, well, Landon can go barefoot.
>>>>>> People
>>>>>> want to take Landon's picture in his booties is mainly because most
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> never give a hot pavement a thought when they briong their dogs out in
>>>>>> parades - this happens in the Pride parade and street fairs because
>>>>>> these
>>>>>> are held in the middle of our summer heat with the strongest sunshine.
>>>>>> Countless people have come up to me to thank me for putting booties on
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> dog and they tell me about the poor dogs who has less than attentive
>>>>>> owners.
>>>>>> Those dogs are picking up each foot over and over because their pads
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> burning on the blacktop! Poor doggies!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is
>>> like
>>>
>>>> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
>>>>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 2:32 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take
>>>>>> pictures of your dog
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> I need to work with my dog with his booties.
>>>
>>>> That is a swell idea in a parade to have him wear them.
>>>>>>> I would love to see us in the Christmas parade this year.
>>>>>>> How far advanced do you need to plan for this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Original message:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Eve,
>>>>>>>> I can see what you mean about the labels, "partials or sighteds" and
>>>>>>>> "Totals" and the stigmas attached to them. This sucks but is
>>>>>>>> reality.
>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>> is like in the Black community light skinned or dark skinned and the
>>>>>>>> stigma
>>>>>>>> is more on the dark skinned as the totals are looked upon as less in
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> blind community. On both couonts it is wrong!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You should NEVER play second fiddle to anyone else just because
>>> they
>>>
>>>> may
>>>>>>>> possess more or full eyesight. I've seen this behavior mainly in
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> blind
>>>>>>>> schools where some people feel the need to dump on someone else -
>>>>>>>> well,
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> totals. Partials have some sight so they would be in the "sighted
>>>>>>>> camp"
>>>>>>>> even though partials get crap from both sides - fully sighted
>>>>>>>> (you're
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> really blind - you're faking it!) or totals who may begrudge
>>>>>>>> partials
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> having some sighted privilege. But we all - totals and partials -
>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>> get the crap from society that decides what we can or can't do based
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> misconceptions, fear, and plain old bigotry rather than going to the
>>>>>>>> experts - those of us with the blindness.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The truth is that we are all blind and we all have alot of
>>> challenges
>>>
>>>> although they may vary. I have friends who are fully sighted,
>>>>>>>> partially
>>>>>>>> sighted, and totally blind - makes no difference to me. I judge
>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> what kind of person they are. Yeah, I'm a low partial - I use a
>>>>>>>> guide
>>>>>>>> dog.
>>>>>>>> I used to be a high partial when I was a teenager and I rode my bike
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> over town. I agree, we should junk the labels and just become
>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> some extra issues to be dealt with.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh yeah, I don't care who takes my dog's picture. Landon's wound
>>> up on
>>>
>>>> people's Facebook! They all ask me first. Landon was doing something
>>>>>>>> cute
>>>>>>>> like lie with his head up and his front legs crossed like he was
>>>>>>>> royalty!
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> saw the pix and thought they were very cute. They didn't take my
>>>>>>>> picture -
>>>>>>>> just the dog. The people who took the pix then asked me about guide
>>>>>>>> dogs
>>>>>>>> and I used it as a learning/teaching moment. I have some of these
>>>>>>>> cute
>>>>>>>> pix
>>>>>>>> on my own Facebook timeline and i don't mind if my FB friends share
>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>> Many of these friends love Landon! LOL! Oh, who knows how many pix
>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>> taken of Landon with his booties on as we march in the Pride Parade!
>>>>>>>> Maybe
>>>>>>>> seeing Landon in booties will remind them to use booties on their
>>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>> dogs
>>>>>>>> on hot pavement. One never knows.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Take care,
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is
>>>
>>>> like
>>>>>>>> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Eve Sanchez" <celticyaya at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 6:02 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to
>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>> pictures of your dog
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> I have no problem with my dog getting her picture taken as long as no
>>>
>>>> one
>>>>>>>>> talks to her and I am not in the picture without knowing. I may be
>>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> fat day or not have my makeup on or something. My dog is not as
>>>>>>>>> vain.
>>>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>>> does piss me off, in a side note, is the designation between
>>>>>>>>> sighted
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> totals. This always seems to come from the 'total' as they like to
>>>>>>>>> call
>>>>>>>>> themselves as seems to be a type of prejudice in that they feel
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> more disabled or more blind than others. Sorry to vent on this, but
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> really pisses me off and I know I am not the only one who feels
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>> though many people will not say so. I would appreciate the terms
>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>> away. Thanks for the opportunity to get my word out. Eve
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 1:36 PM, cheryl echevarria
>>>
>>>> <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>> Yes I am also with Lion International and the Brentwood Chamber of
>>>
>>>> Commerce and other Travel Agent Organizations.
>>>>>>>>>> But I do not let anyone come up to me and take a picture of me or
>>>>>>>>>> Maxx.
>>>>>>>>>> These are different situations.
>>>>>>>>>> Have a great day to all. Bright and sunny after the Blizzard. Um
>>>>>>>>>> isn't
>>>>>>>>>> Nemo a fish and Captain Nemo for 20,000 leagues under the sea, I
>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>> know where they get the names of these storms from.
>>>>>>>>>> Lol.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY State
>>>
>>>> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!SNG Certified - Accessible
>>>>>>>>>> Travel
>>>>>>>>>> Advocate!Cheryl Echevarria, Ownerhttp://
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>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> Federation
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> the Blind will be holding a year round fundraiser for the
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.NFBNY.org <http://www.nfbny.org/> <
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbny.org/> <http://www.nfbny.org/>
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> other resources. Any vacation package booked between November 6
>>>>>>>>>> 2012-November 6, 2013 and vacation must be traveled no later than
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>>>>>>>>>> Also
>>>>>>>>>> is
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>>>>>>>>>> resorts
>>>>>>>>>> vacation, $100.00 per booking will go to the affiliate as well.
>>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> need to be a member of the NFB.org, just book through us.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>> From: lkeeler at comcast.net
>>>
>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 16:22:35 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to
>>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> pictures of your dog
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheryl, sometimes I do and sometimes I don't. I have a
>>> picture of
>>>
>>>> Holly
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I with the bishop. I also have a couple with the Knights of
>>>>>>>>>>> Columbus.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> AIn
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> these cases, I allowed it to prove that these organizations will
>>>>>>>>>>> admit
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> approve of blind folks and there service animals.
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>; "nyagdu" <nyagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 12:05 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> pictures
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> of your dog
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> Good morning everyone:
>>>
>>>> Nelson is busy shoveling the snow outside from Nemo, Blizzard
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, while I was in Washington, D.C. this past week with some
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> you. I
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> was talking with some members of the Utah Chapter and a woman, who
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> a member of the NFB, a guest in the hotel asked me if she could
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> picture of Maxx.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I said no. She asked me why. Well first I said, "Because I do
>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> dog all over social media from strangers that I do not know", she
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> became
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> quite obnoxious about it. I put it to her this way. I said are you
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> parent, she said yes. Well would you like any of your family or
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> children
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to have there pictures taken by strangers posted all over the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> internet.
>>>>>>>>>>>> That is not right.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Then she got it and understood.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you had the same issues. Sometime someone tells me that
>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>> took
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> picture of me and the dog, and I get upset, only because they
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ask
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and the same issue. I should be the one to post pictures and
>>>>>>>>>>> videos
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and maxx if I want, but not strangers.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheryl
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY State
>>>
>>>> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!SNG Certified - Accessible
>>>>>>>>>>>> Travel
>>>>>>>>>>>> Advocate!Cheryl Echevarria,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ownerhttp://www.****echevarriatravel.com631-456-****
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5394reservations
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> @echevarriatravel.comhttp://****www.echevarriatravel.**
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wordpress.com2012
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Norwegian Cruise Line University Advisory Board Member.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST
>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>> #1018299-10Echevarria Travel and proud member of the National
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Federation
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> of the Blind will be holding a year round fundraiser for the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.NFBNY.org <http://www.nfbny.org/> <
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbny.org/> <
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.nfbny.org/> after Hurricane Sandy
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and other resources. Any
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> vacation package booked between November 6 2012-November 6, 2013
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> vacation must be traveled no later than 12/30/2014 a percentage
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>> earnings will go to the affiliate. Also is you book a Sandals
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> couples
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> or Beaches for families and friends resorts vacation, $100.00 per
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> booking
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> will go to the affiliate as well. You do not need to be a member
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> NFB.org, just book through us.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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