[nagdu] guide dogs in seminary

[Larry D. Keeler]

Tami, that's why I sometimes post about going to church functions with 
Holly.  So that we also here the other side and we know that everything 
isn't all bad!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tami Jarvis" <tami at poodlemutt.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dogs in seminary


> Eve,
>
> Yup! It's true. You can show up with your guide dog to church and be 
> booted without a thing to do about it. They can discriminate like the wind 
> if that's what they want to do!
>
> Every now and then, we do get to hear from someone to whom this has 
> actually happened. Sigh. It does leave the guide dog user in question with 
> a heck of a choice. Do they leave the dog behind and worship there anyway? 
> It's a very individual choice. Some choose to attend sans dog; others 
> choose to go elsewhere.
>
> Private clubs can also discriminate legally, being exempt from the ADA and 
> other such inconveniences. Sigh.
>
> Seems like a lot of guide dog users do take their dogs to worship and are 
> welcomed, so that is the bright side. /smile/ People do the right thing by 
> choice even if the law doesn't make them.
>
> Tami
>
> On 02/15/2013 07:15 PM, Eve Sanchez wrote:
>> Does this mean that we could be denied in churches and other religious
>> spiritual places and events? Do we need to ask permission to worship?
>> I really would like this clarified and to whether or not this is even
>> true. Sounds horrible if it is. Well, I guess, my dog is welcome in my
>> temple at least. Blessed Be. Eve
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I don't think they can deny you access if you are visiting her at a 
>>> seminary. If their students are eligible for Pel grants, then I am 
>>> almost sure they can't deny you the right to visit your friend and to 
>>> bring your dog.
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>> On Feb 15, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Martha Harris wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>> I have an access question. I want to visit my friend for a few days, 
>>>> and she lives in the dorm on campus at her seminary. They said, since 
>>>> they are a church-related organization, the ADA doesn't apply to them. 
>>>> So, I'm not covered under title three of the ADA, but am I covered 
>>>> under fair housing or any other laws? They also cited allergy concerns, 
>>>> which I know isn't allowed under ADA. Thanks for the help; I'm so 
>>>> confused.
>>>>
>>>> Martha
>>>>
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