[nagdu] guide dogs in seminary - U.S. Code

Dailyah dailyahpatt at yahoo.com
Sat Feb 16 21:26:48 UTC 2013


Tami is correct.  It's 42 USC §12187 and I've included the text for everyone's ease.

The provisions of this subchapter shall not apply to private clubs or establishments exempted from coverage under title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (42 U.S.C. 2000–a(e)) [42 U.S.C. 2000a et seq.] or to religious organizations or entities controlled by religious organizations, including places of worship.


Dailyah 




>________________________________
> From: Tami Jarvis <tami at poodlemutt.com>
>To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
>Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:30 AM
>Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dogs in seminary
> 
>Eve,
>
>Yup! It's true. You can show up with your guide dog to church and be 
>booted without a thing to do about it. They can discriminate like the 
>wind if that's what they want to do!
>
>Every now and then, we do get to hear from someone to whom this has 
>actually happened. Sigh. It does leave the guide dog user in question 
>with a heck of a choice. Do they leave the dog behind and worship there 
>anyway? It's a very individual choice. Some choose to attend sans dog; 
>others choose to go elsewhere.
>
>Private clubs can also discriminate legally, being exempt from the ADA 
>and other such inconveniences. Sigh.
>
>Seems like a lot of guide dog users do take their dogs to worship and 
>are welcomed, so that is the bright side. /smile/ People do the right 
>thing by choice even if the law doesn't make them.
>
>Tami
>
>On 02/15/2013 07:15 PM, Eve Sanchez wrote:
>> Does this mean that we could be denied in churches and other religious
>> spiritual places and events? Do we need to ask permission to worship?
>> I really would like this clarified and to whether or not this is even
>> true. Sounds horrible if it is. Well, I guess, my dog is welcome in my
>> temple at least. Blessed Be. Eve
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I don't think they can deny you access if you are visiting her at a seminary. If their students are eligible for Pel grants, then I am almost sure they can't deny you the right to visit your friend and to bring your dog.
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>> On Feb 15, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Martha Harris wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>> I have an access question. I want to visit my friend for a few days, and she lives in the dorm on campus at her seminary. They said, since they are a church-related organization, the ADA doesn't apply to them. So, I'm not covered under title three of the ADA, but am I covered under fair housing or any other laws? They also cited allergy concerns, which I know isn't allowed under ADA. Thanks for the help; I'm so confused.
>>>>
>>>> Martha
>>>>
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