[nagdu] Lions support

Tracy Carcione carcione at access.net
Sun Feb 17 19:24:08 UTC 2013 

Thanks Steve.  That makes sense.  Especially with the way airfares are going 
up these days.
Tracy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Lions support


> Tracey,
> Generally, it is a sponsorship where the Lion's will pick up the cost of
> Airfare whick keeps more dollars in the budgets for the traning programs.
> Sometimes, they will provide additional money to the individual for
> incidentals, but most dollars, from my understanding, do not go to the
> student direct, or to the school, but allow the club to pay for this cost
> which can sometimes be costly.  This in turn, gives the club credit and 
> the
> schools also acknowledge the support in various ways.
>
> Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 11:28 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: [nagdu] Lions support
>
> Steve, I'm curious.  Why do people feel they need the Lions support to get 
> a
> guide dog?  TSE, and GDB, pay the airfare, and students get room and board
> from the school.  One might need a bit of money for toys or extra 
> equipment,
> but not a lot.  So where does the support come in?
> Tracy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 6:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hello
>
>
>> All,
>> In regards to Lion's and guide dog program financial support, it is
>> generally a state, or district decision on who they support.  Many states
>> do
>> financially support Leader Dog for the reasons I cited earlier this
>> morning,
>> while other states or districts as many of you have noted, choose to
>> support
>> other training programs.  There tends to be a greater support toward
>> Leader
>> in the Midwest States and Canada.  However, keep in mind, it doesn't mean
>> that even a specific club or clubs won't support an individual as they
>> choose another training program.  We have had Lion's in my specific club
>> who
>> have had dogs from Leader and TSE, and a good friend of mine has a dog
>> from
>> a program located here in WI which was also supported by her club.  My
>> point
>> is that if you do consider getting financial support from the Lion's to
>> obtain a guide, don't hesitate to contact your local Lion's club for
>> support.
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Larry D. 
>> Keeler
>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:51 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hello
>>
>> That's true Eve!  I actually looked at that donation wall at Pilot and
>> read
>> most of the plaques up there.  MJany were put up in honor of Lions who
>> donated to Pilot.  But, like any organization that is big, folks get
>> different impressions for instance a local chapter may be more 
>> traditional
>> than another or a older group may be more conservative than a younger 
>> one.
>> I had a teacher who was a lion and he was a great teacher as well as a
>> great
>> human being!  Finally, I support all guide dog schools as long as they 
>> are
>> serving there clientelle the best they can and don't treat them like
>> subhuman folks.  Dignity and respect are more important than waring about
>> what school or organization is the best.  I for example have never really
>> cared for the White Cane cerimonies and White Cane Queen stuff the Lions
>> do.
>>
>> Only my oppinion though.  And a final thing, some of the Lions might not
>> really know that theey support other schools.  Me being in the Knights of
>> Columbus know we support our local mental health center.  I don't know
>> what
>> other ones we support but I'm sure we do others.  If asked, I could tell
>> you
>> we help this one and would reccommend it simply because without doing 
>> more
>> research, I don''t know what ones we support for sure.  And, Leader is
>> probably the biggest school they do support!
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Eve Sanchez" <celticyaya at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hello
>>
>>
>>> I'm sorry, but it seems you all are quite misimformed. As a Lion and a
>>> Pilot Alumni I could tell you that the Lions International supports
>>> many different schools for guide dogs. Pilot actually is supported
>>> almost wholey by Lions, more than any other school including Leader.
>>> Lions often will support the schools in their areas also such as Guide
>>> Dogs of America and etc. The point of Lions is to support vision care
>>> and those with vision loss and issues. Right now, we are working on
>>> establishing more diabetic education and testing. Are we going to not
>>> include someone who may already be involved with another diabeties
>>> association? No way. This is not like NFB and ACB. Everyone get along
>>> as they should, so I do not know why or where you are getting your
>>> information. One crabby woman does not make the worldwide membership
>>> and should not be the loudest voice heard. Eve
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 7:13 AM, d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net> wrote:
>>>> Julie J I don't have your email address in my address book so will
>>>> answer here.
>>>> I am really sorry this has happened.
>>>> I know here in Montana the lions said leader dogs only.
>>>> My reply was, that is fine, if you allowed more blind to come into
>>>> your club showing that we can get just as much done as you do,
>>>> working together, we all would get something out of this.
>>>> In our city transportation is unreal.
>>>> I didn't want to pay for cab fare all of the time, when I felt
>>>> someone in our area could help me out.
>>>> We do have blind as lions, where they have a driver.
>>>> A father and son team, a lady taking her blind friend.
>>>> the lady that passed away had her sighted husband.
>>>> The rest of us have cabs.
>>>> Now I am trying to think how to add seeing eye now that the leader
>>>> dog lady has passed away.
>>>> there is another person in town who has a seeing eye dog, works all
>>>> of the time, stays pretty much to himself.
>>>> If anyone has tips I would spring this to the father and son team.
>>>> Again I am really sorry this happened.
>>>> In my ladies group, the ladies are impressed how behaved my dog is.
>>>> One lady just about had a kitten when my dog looked at the plate of
>>>> cookies.
>>>> Loll, I just moved his head and we started walking away from the table.
>>>> I am sure if he had his way he would have helped out with each cookie.
>>>> But he didn't, so that was good.
>>>> Again I am really sorry this happened.
>>>> Why did they want your dog in the picture when they gave you the rath
>>>> of God because you trained your own dog?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> --Dar
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>>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>>> every saint has a past
>>>> every sinner has a future
>>>>
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