[nagdu] airport training
rhonda cruz
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Mon Jan 21 16:55:57 UTC 2013
HI my dog and i had to be patted down. because she sounded the middle detecter. with her harness. etc.
but she was cool with it.
On Jan 21, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Michael Hingson wrote:
> I too use the sit and stay commands before going through the metal detector
> and then drop the leash while going through first. I find that if I hold
> the leash while walking through the detector I may set off the alarm.
>
> After going through I call Africa and then tell the agent that I will be
> taking the leash to secure my dog while the agent or another agent conducts
> their examination.
>
> Hand swabbing is suppose to be part of the regular process now. Like with
> anything at the airport I find that they do not conduct the examination %100
> of the time.
>
>
> Best,
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ann Edie
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 01:37 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] airport training
>
> Hi, Julie and all,
>
> I agree with those who use the procedure of putting the guide on a stay and
> going through the metal detector first, while continuing to hold onto the
> leash, then calling the guide to come through to you. The only trouble I
> would anticipate with this procedure is that from what I have heard of the
> TSA's new rules, if the dog/horse touches you or you touch the animal once
> it comes through to you, that they will have to further examine both you and
> the guide. And in my experience, the guide is so happy to be reunited with
> the handler after even so brief a separation, that he/she usually can't
> resist sticking his/her nose in your hand, licking some part of your
> anatomy, or jumping up on you, or in Panda's case, pressing herself against
> my left leg in heel position. I guess this just requires more training for
> calmness when returning to the handler. But the temptation to pet or touch
> the guide when it responds to the "come" command might be just too much for
> me. I haven't had the opportunity to try out this procedure, so am just
> speculating here.
>
> The hand swabbing, I believe, is supposed to be standard procedure for
> anyone traveling with an animal, whether or not it is a service animal, and
> regardless of how you proceed through the metal detector. So I don't think
> the method of going through the metal detector has any bearing on that.
>
> Best,
> Ann
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie J.
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:23 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] airport training
>
> Tami,
>
> You were right. Some people were saying that they put the dog into a sit or
> down stay, drop the leash and walk through the metal detector without
> holding onto the leash. Others do the sit or down part, but hold the end of
> the leash as they walk through.
>
> The original question was if all the programs teach proper airport security
> procedures. For me it's the word "proper" that is where the difference
> lies. I think all of the programs teach some sort of airport procedure and
> I'm sure they'd all say it's "proper". However there isn't exact agreement
> on the specific procedures to be used.
>
> I've only ever flown with Belle and I honestly cannot remember what I did.
> I can say I would never dream of letting go of that girl's leash.
> Not unless I wanted to create a giant kerfuffle. *smile* When I go
> through non airport security with Monty, I have him sit and stay, drop the
> leash and walk through myself. He's trustworthy off leash. I know he will
> come straight to me with no detours. If I was uncomfortable with the
> security personnel or if there were a lot of people around that I thought
> might mess with Monty, I would hold onto his leash. We don't live in a
> highly populated area though, so there are usually very few people at
> security checkpoints out here.
>
> HTH
> Julie
>
>
>
>
> On 1/20/2013 9:54 AM, Tami Jarvis wrote:
>> Cheryl,
>>
>> Oh! Thanks for the clarification. For some reason, I was thinking that
>> the dog was in a down stay without the handler holding the leash while
>> the handler went through the gizmo... Now I know! /grin/
>>
>> On 01/20/2013 07:24 AM, cheryl echevarria wrote:
>>>
>>> We don't give up control of the dog at the airport.
>>> The dog is on a sit stay, we make the leash longer, we walk though
>>> and then we ask the dog to come, never is the dog unattended by us.
>>> We are in full control of the dog, and if someone asks you to
>>> relinquish that, they are wrong.
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>>>> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 07:07:38 -0800
>>>> From: tami at poodlemutt.com
>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] airport training
>>>>
>>>> Juanita,
>>>>
>>>> I'm with you! Putting the dog in a sit or down stay seems it would
>>>> be much more convenient, but I don't like the idea of giving up
>>>> control of the dog, even for that short a time. Especially in a busy
>>>> airport at the security check!
>>>>
>>>> One notion someone here mentioned quite awhile ago that I want to
>>>> use next time I fly is to have a slip on leash/collar with no metal
>>>> in it, to avoid having the dog set off the detector. It seems like
>>>> that would remove possible complications and save some time with
>>>> having the dog wanded. Or having a security agent consider doing a
>>>> cavity check of the dog, as happened to us once. It did not happen,
>>>> but the very idea! It might be said I have never been so shocked in
>>>> my life! /lol/
>>>>
>>>> Tami
>>>>
>>>> On 01/19/2013 08:10 PM, Juanita Herrera wrote:
>>>>> We all have the option of doing that, And even though most of our
>>>>> dogs are capable of doing that, I like to keep tabs on my dog at
>>>>> all times. Therefore, she goes through security right before me as
>>>>> I hold onto her leash. With all the hustle and bustle going on at
>>>>> the airport, one never knows what can happen. I'd rather be safe
>>>>> than sorry. But of course, everyone has their preferences, And
>>>>> different things work for different people.
>>>>> Juanita & Anise
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 19, 2013, at 8:03 PM, Eve Sanchez <celticyaya at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, Pilot Dogs does. They actually give us a few options that we
>>>>>> could choose from as everyone has their own preferences. I myself
>>>>>> like to put my dog in a sit-stay, walk through security and then
>>>>>> call her to me.
>>>>>> I also
>>>>>> love the response I get from some of the security people when I do
>>>>>> this.
>>>>>> For some reason they get amazed when a service animal proves they
>>>>>> are trained well. Blessed Be. Eve
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Debbie Cole
>>>>>> <debbieanne1124 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am just curious if all of the Guide Dog schools train their
>>>>>>> dogs and students the proper way to go through security check
>>>>>>> point in airports?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Debbie & Leone
>>>>>>>
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