[nagdu] Going in circles

Julie J. julielj at neb.rr.com
Wed Jan 23 17:05:29 UTC 2013 

Belle was especially unenthusiastic about circling the neighborhood.  
When I was training her I found that if I did something more like a 
figure eight it worked better.  she never knew when we were actually 
going home and when we were just passing by.

Monty isn't so fussy about going in circles, at least not if they are 
fairly decent sized ones.  He doesn't like the track and he wouldn't be 
excited about laps around the block, but loops around the neighborhood 
he's fine with. I think for him it's about familiarity.  If we do a 
route we haven't done in the past week or so he's excited to go.  But 
the route to work that we do every day, he's not enthused. Oh well, that 
is life and everything isn't exciting all the time.  He'll have to deal.

Julie




On 1/23/2013 10:02 AM, Tracy Carcione wrote:
> We have a couple routes that are essentially big circles--down a 
> couple blocks, over a few, down a couple more, and back towards home.  
> They're not Ben's favorites, but he's OK with them.  He likes the 
> route away from home quite a bit, but he's not so keen on the one 
> coming back. My husband calls it the going home blues.
> I would like to do something other than the big circle, but sometimes 
> I just have no particular place to go.
> My neighborhood is bounded on one side by a railroad running through 
> it, and on another side by very busy streets with only a few 
> stoplights.  It kinda limits my walking-for-exercise circles.
> I can walk farther up than usual and cross the tracks, but it's a much 
> longer walk than otherwise.
> Tracy
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 10:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dogs in gyms was RE: Just some thoughts
>
>
>> Julie, what do you do with your dog while you are running on the 
>> track. The dogs adapt to going to the gym fine, but any I have would 
>> have expired from boredom on the track. I used to do a walking trail 
>> with Spencer, and even that bored him seriously. They really like to 
>> go from somewhere to somewhere. So if you are just walking, it is 
>> better to walk somewhere and then returning by another route. 
>> Retracing doesn't set well, and going around and around doesn't 
>> necessarily either. I would not get enough exercise doing that.
>>
>> CL
>>
>> On Jan 23, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Julie J. wrote:
>>
>>> I have walked an outdoor track with Monty.  I think it's a quarter 
>>> mile once around.  He still gets bored.  I think if there were a lot 
>>> of people and he got to weave me in an out, playing the dog version 
>>> of stock car driver, he might find the experience more enjoyable! 
>>> *smile*
>>> Mostly though, I work him in harness to the track and then run with 
>>> my Kiddo as a guide.
>>> We don't have a gym here that I know of.  I have a treadmill in the 
>>> basement though.  Sometimes Monty will come and lie down beside it 
>>> when I'm walking.  Other times he'll come to see what I'm doing and 
>>> then wander off somewhere else in the house.  I think if I did go to 
>>> a gym, he wouldn't be bothered by the equipment.  I think I'd have 
>>> him lie in front of the machine.  I'm specifically thinking in front 
>>> of the machine so I wouldn't accidentally step on him getting off 
>>> the machine, especially if I needed to exit abruptly.  I have pushed 
>>> the wrong button on the rare occasion and needed to eject myself 
>>> quickly! *smile*
>>>
>>> Have fun and don't stress too much about the dog.  Just go and try 
>>> some different things until you find what works for you and your dog.
>>>
>>> all the best,
>>> Julie
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/23/2013 8:59 AM, Tracy Carcione wrote:
>>>> I suspect a dog would get really bored walking round and round on a 
>>>> track, especially if it's not very long.  I think, if I asked Ben 
>>>> to do it, after the first round or two he'd really slow down, not 
>>>> because he was tired, but just because he wouldn't see any point in 
>>>> it.  I might just leave him somewhere near the start of the track, 
>>>> out of the way, and use my cane.  Or I'd have to think of a way to 
>>>> make it interesting for him, like giving him a kibble every time we 
>>>> passed the finish line or something.  But 17 kibbles is quite a lot.
>>>>
>>>> I appreciate the idea of leaving the dog with the lifeguard at the 
>>>> pool.
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
>>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 9:13 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dogs in gyms was RE: Just some thoughts
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> OK i can't answer all questions, so just read from here.
>>>>> I got a message today that I went over my five trying to answer 
>>>>> questions.
>>>>>
>>>>> We did get to the YMCA today.
>>>>> They were so kind to let me walk with him on the track.
>>>>> One day you go clock wise the next day you go counter.
>>>>> He wanted to be in the center, if walking you stay near the rail, 
>>>>> we will work on this.
>>>>> If running wich will not happen you stay on the outside.
>>>>> If you walk around the track 17 times this is a mile.
>>>>> We did it three.
>>>>> I could tell when he was getting tired.
>>>>> I spoke to a friend on how to help him out.
>>>>> So he wouldn't get board easy.
>>>>> We will slowly build him up.
>>>>> It was a fun day, where we will try again tomorrow.
>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>> Just thought I would change the subject line, so more people 
>>>>>> would actually
>>>>>> know what this thread was about.
>>>>>> I used to go to the YMCA a few times a week with Pascal. I would 
>>>>>> work out
>>>>>> with the exercise equipment (treadmill, weight machines, etc.) 
>>>>>> first and
>>>>>> then head to the pool.
>>>>>> Everyone there was great about Pascal, they loved him. There were 
>>>>>> many young
>>>>>> kids around and they all liked seeing him, and knew not to pet 
>>>>>> him while he
>>>>>> was working. While using the treadmill, I would put Pascal on tie 
>>>>>> down next
>>>>>> to it, and he would just sleep. When we headed over to the pool 
>>>>>> area, I
>>>>>> handed him over to the life guard. One of the managers there 
>>>>>> suggested that
>>>>>> the lifeguard would be the best person to puppy sit, so I would 
>>>>>> tie him onto
>>>>>> the lifeguard chair. Pascal was very well behaved, he mostly just 
>>>>>> slept.
>>>>>> But, occasionally the lifeguard would tell me that he kept 
>>>>>> looking longingly
>>>>>> at the pool and would have loved to just dive on in.
>>>>>> Pascal has never been an overly Velcro dog. That is to say, that 
>>>>>> I can
>>>>>> easily leave him with someone else, and go off and do my own 
>>>>>> thing. He
>>>>>> always gets excited when I come back, but he doesn't seem to mind 
>>>>>> me being
>>>>>> out of his sight. If you have a Velcro dog, they may not like you 
>>>>>> being in
>>>>>> the pool without them. They should be fine lying next to you at the
>>>>>> treadmill though.
>>>>>> So, I suggest you do take your dog to the gym with you, I think 
>>>>>> it will be
>>>>>> good for both of you.
>>>>>> Hope this has helped.
>>>>>> Deanna and Pascal
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 8:37 PM
>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Just some thoughts
>>>>>
>>>>>> If I can walk the track with him that would be good for both of us.
>>>>>> Then he would get a swell work out.
>>>>>> With the snow and ice melting refreezing and melting again, I am 
>>>>>> afraid of
>>>>>> falling.
>>>>>> I know this is new for me, where I will work with them and they me.
>>>>>> i can't go swimming until I get a suit
>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>> It depends on how everything works out!  Holly loves Mass and would
>>>>>>> probably like the gym too!  But, I would worry about folks 
>>>>>>> bothering
>>>>>>> her while I was excorcising!
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
>>>>>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 5:51 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Just some thoughts
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>> I have some thoughts,
>>>>>>>> I'm going to start to go to the YMCA.
>>>>>>>> If I can go to mass in the early morning, then would you take your
>>>>>>>> dog to the gym?
>>>>>>>> Or would you let him stay home in the crate for a couple of hours
>>>>>>>> until you get home again?
>>>>>>>> Just some thoughts.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- 
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