[nagdu] pilot dogs traffic checks was Update:TrainingProgramsat NAGDU Meeting

Darla Rogers djrogers0628 at gmail.com
Wed Jul 3 15:26:51 UTC 2013 

That is only one of the kinds of traffic checks that are done; at GDA, they
also roll out of driveways, with the engine off, they park a running vehicle
across a driveway, etc.
Darla & Handsome Huck Off to ride light rail and do platform work today


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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chantel Cuddemi
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 5:47 AM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] pilot dogs traffic checks was Update:TrainingProgramsat
NAGDU Meeting

Artificial traffic checks are traffic checks set up by the trainers while
you're in class. 

A trainer drives in a car and pulls out unexpectedly in front of you just as
you're about to cross. The dog is then expected to disobey the forward
command and back the handler up away from the car. 

Hope that helps, 

Chantel and Pilot Dog Motley, poodle. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 1:24 AM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] pilot dogs traffic checks was Update:TrainingProgramsat
NAGDU Meeting

What exactly is artificial traffic checks? What do you mean by artificial?

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Chantel Cuddemi <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org Date sent: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 00:38:55 -0400
Subject: Re: [nagdu] pilot dogs traffic checks was Update: 
TrainingProgramsat NAGDU Meeting

Guys,

Students and dogs were freaked out by the artificial traffic checks set up
by Pilot.  I wasn't aware that the dogs go through artificial traffic checks
before we got them.

On 7/2/13, Larry D.  Keeler <lkeeler at comcast.net> wrote:
 That I didn't know! I just know that between Holly and I we don't have any
probblems! She'll stop whebn cars are coming and go around those that park
in the middle of the street.
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Snow White Dove" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com
 To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
 <nagdu at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 6:19 PM
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 Hi Ava,

 Pilot dogs does traffic checks while the dogs are in their training period

 with the trainers, before they get to you.

 You're right though, there are plenty of opportunities for the dog to show

 you it'll stop for traffic during your training itself.

 Hope this helps.

 Jenny
 On Jul 2, 2013, at 3:16 AM, avapup.7 at gmail.com wrote:

 I've heard this before, that pilot dogs doesn't do traffic checks.  As I
am considering this program for after my Cocoa girl retires I'm wondering

 if it's maybe a difference in terminology? I mean, their dogs are trained

 to stop if a car approaches, right? Like, intelligent disobedience? But  is
it that pilot dogs doesn't set up artificial situations for their  students
where they have a car driven by a staff member to test them? I'd

 think that in Columbus there would be plenty of real life traffic checks

 without setting them up like other schools do! Ugh, Columbus traffic! Do

 I have it right or am I thinking of something different? 
Thanks!!

 Ava and Cocoa

 On Jul 1, 2013, at 1:24 PM, rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com
 wrote:

 the staff at pilot are good.
 maybe if we got more grads from pilot they would change there minds,  about
going to a nfb convention,  but i will never know, if i just ask.

 On Jul 1, 2013, at 7:04 AM, Star Gazer wrote:

 Sounds like the trainer at Pilot wasn't briefed properly before giving

 her
 presentation.
 Agree with Marsha, the folks in charge at Pilot could have calmed her  down
and used it as a learning opportunity.

 -----Original Message-----
 From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marsha  Drenth
 Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 3:40 PM
 To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update: Training Programs at NAGDU Meeting

 marion,
 When did this happen? I am assuming before you took the presidency.
 Althought there has been those members around since those time,, before

 you
 took the presidency, the NAGDU is certainly different from those times

 too.
 its unfortunate that Pilot feels that way, that they feel they can not
participate.  I wonder if its graduates urged them to do so, if they  would.
I  do feel like that is a cop-out.



 Marsha drenth
 Sent with my IPhone

 On Jun 28, 2013, at 6:53 PM, "National Association of Guide Dog Users"
 <blind411 at verizon.net> wrote:

 Rhonda,
 Pilot has not been to an NFB convention since I have been an  officer.
When I spoke with Jay Gray to invite him, he said Pilot  would  never
attend another convention because it was his opinion one of his  trainers
was  embarrassed at a meeting.  I don't remember the incident, but he said
the  trainer was asked about traffic checks and she said Pilot did not do
traffic  checks.  Apparently, the president at the time was very surprised
and  exclaimed, "You don't do traffic checks?" According to someone else
that  was  there, this is how it happened and a rather strong discussion of
the  importance of traffic checks followed.  I told Mr.  Gray that I felt it

 was
 a
 reasonable question and couldn't imagine not doing traffic checks  while
assuring him that, in spite of the fact that our members can be very
assertive, I would never allow anyone to insult another nor treat  anyone
with disrespect or in an undignified manner.  Pilot has still not  chosen to
attend our conventions, though!

 Fraternally yours,
 Marion Gwizdala



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