[nagdu] National Convention--my opinion

Wed Jul 10 18:59:36 UTC 2013

Hello,
I agree, it should be a choice, and it should be on the 
registration form.
I think if it is there for people to select if they choose, we 
will probably have a lot of people selecting it.
Just my two cents!

Robert Stigile
phone: 818-381-9568
e-mail: rstigile at gmail.com
Skype: robertstigile1
Twitter: rstigile

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Aleeha Dudley <blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:59:27 -0400
Subject: Re: [nagdu] National Convention--my opinion

Hello,
I do not agree with the required fee for the relief areas.  If 
you have a required fee, that would be going against everything 
We stand for.  Our dogs are supposed to go with us everywhere, 
without the hindrance of any extra fees that  anyone else would 
incur on the same day or at the same time.  Those with canes do 
not have to pay an extra fee, so, I think it makes sense to ask 
for donations, but not to require them.  If we start requiring 
them  for the relief areas, are employers  may also start doing 
the same things so that we can have a relief area.  This does not 
make sense to me, though I do not mean to offend anyone by my 
statements.  I say that is the same for us as it would be for any 
other organization that we might become a part of, including our 
work, or other activities.  We should have the same rights as any 
other person, and should not have to pay any extra fees, just so 
our dogs can come with us.  I think requiring fees is asking for 
trouble.  People will not relieve their dogs in the relief areas, 
or they will relieve them, but not clean up after them  or do any 
number of other things that could damage the hotel property.  
Also, this could greatly affect people's perceptions of the Nfb's 
view on guidedogs, a viewwhich we are just now starting to change 
among the general public.  Just my thoughts.

Aleeha Sent from my iPad

On Jul 10, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> 
wrote:

 Margo, I think if we pay a fee that is a required one, and if we 
don't have the folks to adequately care for it, we need to hire 
some company.  It is a huge issue to have that material hauled 
from Maryland.  I wonder why they don't do it that way anyway? I 
really hadn't thought much of this.

 CL

 On Jul 10, 2013, at 12:06 PM, "Margo and Arrow" 
<margo.downey at verizon.net> wrote:

 I think it should be a required charge.  Also, you know, we can 
learn from
 other organizations and I hope we don't get into the thing of 
not doing
 something because A C B or some other organization does it.  I 
still would
 like to see a company that does this type of work do the work 
instead of the
 National Center.

 Margo and Arrow

 -----Original Message-----
 From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Michael Hingson
 Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 11:36 AM
 To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
Users'
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] National Convention--my opinion

 The NFB does pay for the relief area.  As I said, I think a 
voluntary fee
 option on the pre registration form and an option for people who 
register at
 the convention would be good.  What we need to do is to make 
this whole
 thing more visible to all members.

 Not to copy or anything, but the ACB has this option on its 
registration
 forms.  It does work.

 I will not comment much on making this a requirement except to 
say that at
 the convention people charge for all kinds of things.  It is 
reasonable to
 consider asking guide dog users to help defray the relief area 
costs.  Also,
 non guide dog users may wish to help.

 Best,

 Michael Hingson

 -----Original Message-----
 From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darla 
Rogers
 Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 08:20 AM
 To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
Users'
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] National Convention--my opinion I hear what 
you are
 saying Julie, but would the National Convention pay for it out 
of its funds?
 Darla & Handsome Huck

 -----Original Message-----
 From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie 
J.
 Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:01 AM
 To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
Users
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] National Convention--my opinion

 Isn't requiring guide dog users to pay a fee for a service or 
participating
 in an event against our beliefs as an organization?

 I've always felt that NAGDU  was opposed to charging guide dog 
users fees
 based on their choice to use a guide dog.  I don't know about 
the legality
 of doing this in this particular situation, but if the hotel did 
it, there
 would be a giant fuss about it.  If we wouldn't put up with it 
from the
 hotel, why would we impose it on ourselves?  I'm not trying to 
start
 anything, but it seems like a contradiction to me.

 Julie

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