[nagdu] How long is "successful"

[Larry D. Keeler]

Great points Cindy! I figure that even success is defined differently. For 
example, in our neighborhood, Holly sometimes forgets to stop at driveway 
curbs or is sometimes distracted by those goofy squirrels! So, she is not 
perfect! But, I can allow for this and usually she is great! I figure I'll 
never get all the dog out of her but, as long as I can control it, and we 
are safe, that's all that matters! Aklso, I pay a lot of attention to my 
surroundings. Sometimes if Holly misses something, I'll pick it up. For me, 
defining a successful team requires watching how the dog and the handler 
work together. Illness or stuborness can effect one or both the team members 
and screw up the successfulness of a team. Sometimes it can also improve the 
team. I know that dogs are really sensative to how there humans are feeling. 
And, when they know how to handle whatever they are sensing, they can be 
very compassionate and protective! I don't mean aggressive but sometimes 
over protective.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] How long is "successful"


>I think "successful" is a very difficult thing to define. What if you had 
>your dog two years and the work had been great, but that dog got sick or so 
>traumatized that it couldn't work anymore. But they were successful up to 
>that point. What if someone works with a dog but it is a struggle the whole 
>time, but they don't say anything to anyone about it. Is that success? I 
>just think success is a little hard to define in black and white terms.
>
> Cindy Lou
>
> On Jun 7, 2013, at 7:03 AM, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net> wrote:
>
>> Darla asked how long a team has to be out to be "successful".  I'd say at 
>> least 2 years, just to put a number on it.  Or possibly 3; I could argue 
>> either way.
>> I'd be real curious to see numbers from schools of teams graduated, and 
>> partnerships that lasted 3 years or more. I think that should be a pretty 
>> good indicator as to how well the school is doing. I mean, if school X 
>> put out 500 teams, and 300 of them stayed together, that's only a 60% 
>> success rate, and not so good.  But if 400 of them worked 3 years or 
>> more, that's 80% success, which is pretty good.
>> Tracy
>>
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