[nagdu] How long is "successful"

[Darla Rogers]

Hi,
	I believe the consumer needs to know what the schools use as their
measurement; I definitely understand the emotionality--that is another
reason I have kept a dog who was really not so suitable--I am an animal
lover and don't find it easy to separate that, unless I can do it in class.
Darla


-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Star Gazer
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 10:04 AM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] How long is "successful"

I think this is a difficult topic because we have the numbers, and then we
have the experiences which are full of emotion.  
Tracey is interested in the raw numbers which are useful. 
Megan's post is an excellent example of why the raw numbers may not be the
only thing a consumer wants to look at. 
We'd need both a quantative and qualitive assessment. Maybe we could use
some best practices from industry to do this? 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 8:16 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] How long is "successful"

I think "successful" is a very difficult thing to define. What if you had
your dog two years and the work had been great, but that dog got sick or so
traumatized that it couldn't work anymore. But they were successful up to
that point. What if someone works with a dog but it is a struggle the whole
time, but they don't say anything to anyone about it. Is that success? I
just think success is a little hard to define in black and white terms.

Cindy Lou

On Jun 7, 2013, at 7:03 AM, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net> wrote:

> Darla asked how long a team has to be out to be "successful".  I'd say 
> at
least 2 years, just to put a number on it.  Or possibly 3; I could argue
either way.
> I'd be real curious to see numbers from schools of teams graduated, 
> and
partnerships that lasted 3 years or more. I think that should be a pretty
good indicator as to how well the school is doing. I mean, if school X put
out 500 teams, and 300 of them stayed together, that's only a 60% success
rate, and not so good.  But if 400 of them worked 3 years or more, that's
80% success, which is pretty good.
> Tracy
> 
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